M14 Shooter

I've always liked the Goalkeeper



Netherlands 30 mm (1.2") Goalkeeper SGE-30

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Any time someone says there should be a prior restraint on gun ownership, ask them what they think about a person's right to talk to known al Qaeda operatives without fear of being listened in on.

niftydrifty

I've been typing about it and have given my opinions. refute them, why dontchya?

LOL, you're trying to wriggle out of the guidelines of the private debate forum, Shooter. of course, I'm aware of what I did say, and I was also aware of your intellectual laziness. but what I didn't count on, is that laziness extending over to disregarding of the guidelines of the private debate forum, where it is quite clear that you were to have your topic ok'd by me, and I was to agree to it, before we debated.

yawn, this "thread" is turning into another borefest where you weasel your way out of any real discussion by claiming, amongst other things, that I ought to say things that I don't agree with for the sake of argument? ridiculous.

I don't really see what gun politics has to do with Liberalism. there's this great big googly monster you likely call "the left" that's 100% full of stereotypical peaceniks, where all the men wear berets and everybody wears birkenstocks and drinks lattes, and every single one of them wants to wipe the 2nd amendment from the books, according to you. some "Liberals" want to ban guns outright. I can't speak for them. neither can I speak for what you think Liberalism is. classical Liberalism and new Liberalism are about freedoms.

Turn Left: Liberalism FAQ

LOL. wrong. how about a topic that is specific and isn't so general and so obvious and that isn't pointless?

Issue:
What established religions are protected by the 1st amendment?
My side:
I will argue that, certainly, any religion you care to mention is protected by the 1st.

Issue:
What houses are protected by the 3rd amendment?
My side:
I will argue that, certainly, any house you care to mention is protected by the 3rd.

Issue:
What self-incriminating statements are protected by the 5th amendment?
My side:
I will argue that, certainly, anyone compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself is protected by the 5th.

...such is the idiocy of your "challenge."

how about a topic that isn't stupid?

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M14 Shooter

At your behest, I presented you with a challenge, of my chosing.

You can accpet the challenge, or not.

After you accept the challenge, we can discuss the format for the debate.

So -- are you going to accept the challenge and argue on behalf of Liberalism, or not?

Its your call.

And it must be said that if you do not accept the challenge, you're a coward. No way around it.

niftydrifty

define "Liberalism," as you see it, from the perspective of 2nd amendment "gun" politics.

M14 Shooter

Shooter, you can pick the topic and I'll argue on behalf of Liberalism and you can argue on behalf of your brain damage.

YOU used the term "Liberalism" not me.
If YOU don't understand the position you said you'd argue, that's YOUR problem.

That said , the context of this post clearly indicates that we're talking about "Liberalism" in the Modern American form. Its up to YOU to put up the liberal argument.


So, are you going to accpet my challenge, a challenege made at your behest and on your terms, or are you a coward?

Felicity

Hey Nifty! I'd take you up on this one. I don't know what religion you subscribe to (if any), but I am Catholic, and many, many, many Christians that are not Catholic take issue with the "Real Presence" of Christ in the Eucharist (the communion wafers and wine consecrated at the Catholic Mass). I'd be willing to debate that with a fellow Christian who doesn't believe that Jesus' Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity are really and truly present in the consecrated Hosts at Catholic Mass. Interested?

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niftydrifty

I've already explained that the Liberal position isn't necessarily in favor of banning all guns.

What do you think the Liberal position is? wriggling out of this one too, eh? if you'd care to answer, I'll feel obliged to school you on that as well.

as usual, you're not doing too well, Shooter.

niftydrifty

I am a Christian (CRC) and I participate in communion too. I enjoy it and I believe in it.

M14 Shooter

Thats interesting, but it doesnt have anyting to do with the topic I presented.

And given that you have yet to accept my challenge, any discussion of the topic is overwhelmingly premature.

So, are you going to accpet my challenge, a challenge made at your behest and on your terms, or are you a coward?

C'mon Nifty -- you called me out, and I met your challenge.
Where's the big man who posted:

Shooter, you can pick the topic and I'll argue on behalf of Liberalism and you can argue on behalf of your brain damage.

You arent running away are you? Like a coward?

No?

Then accept my challenege and we can discuss format.

Felicity

Is CRC "Christian Reform Church"?

Do they believe in the real flesh and blood of the one Christ sacrificed on the cross is really and truly present and among us in Person under the signs of bread and wine at the Catholic Mass?