Does the media really have a liberal bias?

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

I respect your intent, however. People who believe the Main Stream media has a Liberal Bias will claim that Obama hasn't done a single good thing not 1. Then they will start in with their tirade..

The biggest thing that will inhibit this debate is that there is no clear metric to what constitutes a bias, so we each will have to argue from our own personal perspective.

Here is a good example of my point: http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-media/65434-bill-o-reilly-2.html#post1058531647

NoJingoLingo said:

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

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All news media outlets are biased. The mainstream media(abc,cbs,PBS,nbc,cnn,bbc and etc.) is liberally biased,some may be more or less biased, but they are all biased. Especially if you consider the television shows they air that do contain some social and political commentary.

jamesrage said:

All news media outlets are biased. The mainstream media(abc,cbs,PBS,nbc,cnn,bbc and etc.) is liberally biased,some may be more or less biased, but they are all biased. Especially if you consider the television shows they air that do contain some social and political commentary.

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I give you credit for knowing media means more than just news. However, if we're limiting to new media, not political entertainers and regular programing, I would say no bias has been proven. So, absence of evidence still means we can't say it is biased. If you mean news entertainers, bias is their mission. So, kind of silly to complain about that. Probably shouldn't watch them if you have trouble with that type of bias.

Programing is much more difficult as they only present what the public will allow. If the public rejects a show, it isn't on long. So, people generally have more say than given credit for. I think that keeps programing pretty mainstream, not to mention bland.

The question one should ask when making a claim as to rather a Media is Liberal or not would be what facts prove their statement. Many don't know the term Liberal Media was championed by Spiro Agnew while he was being investigated for wrong doing. I am sure Nixon threw the phrase around a bit as well. Both resigned, rather they want to realize it or not the Media is going to be on their case for things such as they did. The Media hounded Clinton and keeps Obama in the line of site as well. DUH..I find little bias with most television news except for Fox. But they don't do news, they do commentaries which is perfectly fine except they call themselves Fox News Channel..

There is bias in everything. It is entirely impossible to eliminate it from people. However, the "liberal media bias" that is so often referenced is just a good PR tool. With this simple tool, nothing is the conservatives fault, it's just all the biased reporting.

I would argue that there are more news channels slanted to the left than to the right. On the right, it is pretty much fox news while on the left you will find pretty much everyone else, and some of them are just as liberal, as Fox is conservative. The reason fox news has so many viewers is because they are the only alternative to the right.

So what has Obama accomplished
1. He has repaired our relations with other countries, although he failed in China.
2. He is leaving Iraq and is trying to leave Afganistan soon.
3. He is trying to make a bill, which reduces the powers of lobbiest.
4. His health care bill is failing.

However it's much worse in other countries, and the general opinion is more left-wing as well.

NoJingoLingo said:

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

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What's an "interwebz"?

And Obama hasn't done for things good, so you've got yourself a trick question.

Obama hasn't done a single thing good for the United States.


Maybe you mean his famous "Apology Tours"?

How about the time he reneged on America's commitment to the defense of Poland to appease Russia, and Russia reciprocated by publishing the infantile letter Obama had written pleading for a bargain to control Iran?

Perhaps you mean his multiple trillion dollar deficits?

Perhaps you mean his attempt to sky-rocket taxes by creating a Cap and Trade scam to deal with a problem that doesn't even exist?

I know you have to be referring to his appeasement of the Chinese by his cancelling the US plans to re-establish a manned presence on the Moon, right?

What's that boy in the White House done that ISN'T going to make life harder and more expensive and more dangerous for my children?

Camlon said:

I would argue that there are more news channels slanted to the left than to the right. On the right, it is pretty much fox news while on the left you will find pretty much everyone else, and some of them are just as liberal, as Fox is conservative. The reason fox news has so many viewers is because they are the only alternative to the right.

So what has Obama accomplished
1. He has repaired our relations with other countries, although he failed in China.

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Poland is a nation, isn't it?

Lech Walesa wasn't too impressed.

Camlon said:

2. He is leaving Iraq and is trying to leave Afganistan soon.

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He should be trying to finish the jobs first.

Only young boys quit before the job is finished.

Camlon said:

3. He is trying to make a bill, which reduces the powers of lobbiest.

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Then again, he's got tons of lobbyists on his own staff, so he's managed to fool you, not us.

Camlon said:

4. His health care bill is failing.

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His health care scam is in danger of defeat only because repeated successive elections against Democrats are scaring the pants off the Congress. If Scott Brown hadn't won that election, we'd be screwed by now.

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However it's much worse in other countries, and the general opinion is more left-wing as well.

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True enough.

At least Fox is getting nearly 50% of the viewership, so there's hope for America yet.

All media outlets are biased, most of them have a liberal bias. Fox makes up for it by being conservatively biased enough for any 3 or 4 stations all on its own.

Ok, the Media is Biased to the Left mostly and here is my four points that he did good in.

1. He pardoned the Turkey on Thanksgiving.

2. He did not criticize the Groundhog when it saw its shadow.

3. He did O.K. during the White House Easter Egg Roll and Hunt.

4. He handled not being nominated this year for the Nobel Peace with good grace.


Yep I can think of four things that i can say he did well without straining to much.:2razz:

Um, You are not going to ask for any more are you. :worry:

Redress said:

There is bias in everything. It is entirely impossible to eliminate it from people. However, the "liberal media bias" that is so often referenced is just a good PR tool. With this simple tool, nothing is the conservatives fault, it's just all the biased reporting.

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NoJingoLingo said:

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

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Does the winning of the Nobel Peace Prize mean anything to you?
Our President has tried and failed thus far with universal health care.
This is a democracy, the conservatives are still in power, as long as they remain, our nation will not have government funded , even partial, health care for all of its people..
I'd like to know how Europe and Canada were able to have fair and equitable health care.
I have lived thru many administrations...the JFK one, Mr Kennedy was not able to do much of anything.., as I recall....
..and this means nothing....its the Congress, not the President..
Sometimes, and right now, I do not think we are ready for a President with the qualities of Obama....maybe another 100 years for our nation to become more civilized and respectful..

NoJingoLingo said:

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

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Lily Ledbetter bill
Secy of State Hillary Clinton
Stimulus Bill
Question Time


That was off the top of my head. Imma go back and see what everyone else said now.

:2wave:


Edit: Only one person answered and a conservative thought it was a good idea to trash their post. How fun. Also, the person that did answer (I don't count the silly turkey poster), was actually a foreign conservative.

Re: Does the media really have a liberal bias?

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The idea the media has a liberal bias is a powerful and useful symbol for the right-wing, so it will probably be 'true' in some sense or another as far as that spectrum is concerned.

However, the media cannot be consistently sensationalist if it has a liberal bias because then it wouldn't be able to sensationalize controversial movements made by liberals. Hence, it cannot have a liberal bias in any significant sense (aka, over time), because it is clear the media is sensationalist.

The media bias is towards sensationalism.

NoJingoLingo said:

If you said yes, then here's your challenge. Without using the interwebz, name 4 things the Obama admin has done that you think are good or that he has accomplished in his first year. Be honest and don't cheat by looking, just off the top of your head.

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First I want to swear on your mother's life that there isn't a single liberal bone on your body, because you just challenged the conservatives to name something good about Obama, but you didn't challenge liberals to anything. Of course your challenge has nothing to do with media bias, but that's beside the point.

American said:

First I want to swear on your mother's life that there isn't a single liberal bone on your body, because you just challenged the conservatives to name something good about Obama, but you didn't challenge liberals to anything. Of course your challenge has nothing to do with media bias, but that's beside the point.

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Were I a person who likes to be obtuse like *cough* some posters *cough cough* I would swear there is no liberal bone in my body, there are just bone bones. Then I would either split or make some disparaging remark about the other side and then split.

Instead I'll admit that I am a moderate social libertarian. For those that need more 'splainin', I have liberal and covservative "bones".

You have problems understanding or you're paranoid or you're just not that smart. The posts from you that I've seen are usually one liners so it's difficult to judge.

To your post. I challenged people to see if the media has informed them of at least 4 things Obama has done that are good. If most people can name off 4, then the media has been telling them that Obama has done "good" things enough times for them to remember. This would be a good indicator of liberal bias. Repeating accomplishments of a democrat president would show liberal bias. If the 4 answers were fairly different between posters this would indicate that the media has not only been repetitive, but repetitive on many accomplishments.

However... if people can't name at least 4 then...

Yes it does

Fox, GE, Microsoft, Westinghouse, Clearchannel, Disney, and Timewarner are all liberal basitions of anti military pro socialism ideology

Lets not get started on talk radio and how it is such a strong proponent of liberal thought. It makes the ivory towers of Universities look like AEI or the Heritage Foundation

90% of journalists are Democrats. That's just a fact. And bias is going to be present no matter what.

Dav said:

90% of journalists are Democrats. That's just a fact. And bias is going to be present no matter what.

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the the corporporate owners of the media are leftist scum that push their socialist big government agenda through the media channels they own and control. Why else would they hire democratic journalists and push a liberal bias

Lord Tammerlain said:

Yes it does

Fox, GE, Microsoft, Westinghouse, Clearchannel, Disney, and Timewarner are all liberal basitions of anti military pro socialism ideology

Lets not get started on talk radio and how it is such a strong proponent of liberal thought. It makes the ivory towers of Universities look like AEI or the Heritage Foundation

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Let me get this straight, you're saying FOX News is liberal? I really don't know how else to comment on this besides, wtf?

repeter said:

Let me get this straight, you're saying FOX News is liberal? I really don't know how else to comment on this besides, wtf?

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Fox News and MSNBC are both owned by large conglomerates, just as the rest of the major media sources in the US except for PBS.

And we all know how socialist large conglomerates are. Pushing more taxes and more governmental control, in order to reduce profits