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Obama governing from the middle?

Is Obama being a centrist/governing from the middle (read into)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • No

    Votes: 6 66.7%

  • Other (even though selecting "other" makes no sense)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    9
Cilogy

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Commentary: Obama driving down middle of the road - CNN.com

In this CNN article, Ruben Navarette says that Obama is actually a centrist now.

:shock:

I really don't know. I mean he facing opposition from both sides at the moment.

Watch the results of this poll, I may be wrong, but of course the conservatives will say no and the liberals will say yes. If that happens, isn't it just another sign that he is NOT a centrist?

What do you think?
 
Cilogy said:
Commentary: Obama driving down middle of the road - CNN.com

In this CNN article, Ruben Navarette says that Obama is actually a centrist now.

:shock:

I really don't know. I mean he facing opposition from both sides at the moment.

Watch the results of this poll, I may be wrong, but of course the conservatives will say no and the liberals will say yes. If that happens, isn't it just another sign that he is NOT a centrist?

What do you think?
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This is what happens when you don't work with only one party on everything. You get labeled a "centrist" and questioned on your judgment and loyalty.
 
Cilogy said:
Commentary: Obama driving down middle of the road - CNN.com

In this CNN article, Ruben Navarette says that Obama is actually a centrist now.

:shock:

I really don't know. I mean he facing opposition from both sides at the moment.

Watch the results of this poll, I may be wrong, but of course the conservatives will say no and the liberals will say yes. If that happens, isn't it just another sign that he is NOT a centrist?

What do you think?
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He's in the center alright.
I hope he knows he's in the wrong hole and is wearing a condom.
 
The two major issues that one can judge the administration on so far are the stimulus and the spending bill. If you're talking conservative vs liberal both have been decidedly liberal. If you're talking republican rather than conservative, however, the past eight years and the proliferation of neocons mean that Obama's moves have not been all that far from the right. One can only hope that the fact that the same policies are coming from the left will drive the right back on track.
 
Cilogy said:
Which rocks! :rock
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At least honest.
Tip of the cap.

Too bad your party isn't honest about it as you are.
Then we could have a fair battle.

Joe the Plumber wouldn't be attacked.
Calling him a Marxist would be no big deal.
 
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So far he's been pretty liberal (compared to the average person)...but his presidency is only a month old, and there's only one thing to judge him on: The stimulus bill. While it was certainly left-of-center compared to what Americans are historically accustomed to, it was considered very timid by a lot of economists.
 
Kandahar said:
So far he's been pretty liberal (compared to the average person)...but his presidency is only a month old, and there's only one thing to judge him on: The stimulus bill. While it was certainly left-of-center compared to what Americans are historically accustomed to, it was considered very timid by a lot of economists.
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787 BILLION dollars is timid? We haven't even spent that much on 7 years of Iraq war....
 
Kal'Stang said:
787 BILLION dollars is timid?
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Ya. With a recession of this magnitude, we really needed a stimulus at least twice that large.

Kal'Stang said:
We haven't even spent that much on 7 years of Iraq war....
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What does that have to do with the economic stimulus? :confused:
 
Is THIS what you all voted for?

BARNEY FRANK: I think it's what people voted for. There was no secret that this was going to happen. John McCain kept predicting that if Obama won, this would happen, and I think Obama felt an obligation to make an honest man out of John McCain -- or to keep him honest. One John's always been pretty honest. Of course the private sector is the engine to create wealth. But we also know, as Franklin Roosevelt knew and as others have known, that the private sector works best when it's got a set of rules and a cooperative set of arrangements with the public sector.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: So during the campaign, remember now, the Democrats said that we --McCain, Joe the Plumber, we -- were crazy for warning that Obama was a socialist! Now Barney Frank says everybody knew it? Everybody knew this was going to happen? I did! I guarantee you that a majority of people that voted for the Bamster did not know this was going to happen. He was talking tax cuts. He wasn't talking about this. He was talking about lowering the sea levels four feet. He wasn't talking all this detailed, massive spending. I "disagwee" with Mr. "Fwank" on this, folks.
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Barney: You Voted for Socialism
 
bhkad said:
Is THIS what you all voted for?

Barney: You Voted for Socialism
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*sigh*

I'm not sure why I bother.

This is factually true:

"That the private sector works best when it's got a set of rules and a cooperative set of arrangements with the public sector."

And the first part is one of Keynes's pillars of government. Functioning capitalism required a set of rules to function. Otherwise those within the capitalist framework move to modify and change the framework to favor monopolies. We saw this with the robber barons. Capitalism does not maintain itself. Somalia for example. And arrangements with the public sector have allowed massive construction firms to arise producing billions in lifetime profits. Not to mention that private renewable energy firms in Spain and Germany have weaned those countries off oil in to a large degree all with large profits. California's regulations have spawned numerous utility firms that provide efficiency and energy to meet a rapidly growing population without massive energy expansion. One reason why large parts of the US don't have large renewable is because government won't provide cooperative sets of arrangements regarding regulations.
 
zimmer said:
At least honest.
Tip of the cap.

Too bad your party isn't honest about it as you are.
Then we could have a fair battle.
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Sorry its not my party. :(
 
Obama's working to preserve the current capitalist economic structure, so he's technically being centrist with his economic stimulus bill, even though his bill itself is liberal. I actually think he hasn't been liberal enough, but I'm willing to accept that because he's putting forth an effort to engage the Republicans and create compromises - the Republicans are the ones who aren't being centrist enough.
 
Cilogy said:
Watch the results of this poll, I may be wrong, but of course the conservatives will say no and the liberals will say yes. If that happens, isn't it just another sign that he is NOT a centrist?

What do you think?
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What polls results then would you believe WOULD be a sign that he is a centrist?
 
Consider the words of Pat Buchanan:

In his campaign and inaugural address, Barack Obama cast himself as a moderate man seeking common ground with conservatives.

Yet, his budget calls for the radical restructuring of the U.S. economy, a sweeping redistribution of power and wealth to government and Democratic constituencies. It is a declaration of war on the Right.

The real Obama has stood up, and lived up to his ranking as the most left-wing member of the United States Senate.

Barack has no mandate for this.

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We are not "headed down the road to socialism." We are there.

Pitchfork Time - HUMAN EVENTS
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bhkad said:
[oldies music reference]But you can cry if you want to.[/oldies music reference]
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Yeah its not my party. I am not part of the Democratic party.

Again Reverend you seem to have replaced logical responses with immaturity.
 
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