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Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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I bet one could use gay sex to make a baby.



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Good thing you quoted.
 
That's probably best. I was playing with semantics, particularly the word "use" in the definition provided above, in BD's post (quoted).



Having given it a minute's thought, in addition to 'downloading' (fear the pun), pornography could be employed. In fact, I daresay, the number of ways in which gay sex can be used to make a baby is limited only by one's imagination.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Prove it. Let's see a definition WITH LINKS.
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Are you kidding me? I've been asking all of you guys for proof, and all I get is that gay sex is natural because it says so in the dictionary.

YOU SHOW PROOF WITH LINKS.
 
RamFel said:
Are you kidding me? I've been asking all of you guys for proof, and all I get is that gay sex is natural because it says so in the dictionary.

YOU SHOW PROOF WITH LINKS.
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And all we've seen from you is gay sex is unnatural because it doesn't involve procreation, which is a bull**** argument with or without links, period.
 
Redress said:
OK, I will play: and if gay sex is unnatural, what does that mean? Why does it matter? What argument in favor of SSM does gay sex being unnatural undermine?
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Well, since it IS unnatural, then SSM can't happen.
 
StillBallin75 said:
And all we've seen from you is gay sex is unnatural because it doesn't involve procreation, which is a bull**** argument with or without links, period.
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No. The real BS argument is that it's natural because the dictionary says it is.
 
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RamFel said:
No. The real BS argument is that it's natural because the dictionary says it is.
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I don't understand how that's a BS argument. It's a hell of a lot better than your argument that "gay sex is unnatural, because it has nothing to do with procreation, because I say so."
 
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I still say that gay sex is a perfectly natural way to make a baby, given the necessary logistics.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I don't understand how that's a BS argument. It's a hell of a lot better than your argument that "gay sex is unnatural, because it has nothing to do with procreation, because I say so."
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Yeah. The "Because I said so" is strong with that one.
 
RamFel said:
Are you kidding me? I've been asking all of you guys for proof, and all I get is that gay sex is natural because it says so in the dictionary.

YOU SHOW PROOF WITH LINKS.
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What kind of proof would you like RamFel?
 
I've seen a lot of people talking about how homosexual sex is sinful, from a Christian point of view. It is.

But let's put this in perspective here. The only kind of sex sanctioned by the New Testament is procreative sex within marriage. So pre-marital sex is exactly as sinful as homosexual sex. Also, sex within marriage but without the intent to conceive a child is exactly as sinful as homosexual sex.

So when so-called Christians get in an uproar about homosexuality, they ought to consider their own hypocrisy that they have no compunction about the sin of non-procreative sex within marriage.

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StillBallin75 said:
i'm seriously at the end of my rope, honestly, who gives a **** if it's unnatural?

I'm more interested in people's take on why homosexuality is wrong.
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SB...that's the problem with all threads related to "homosexuality" or even abortion. Nobody has come forward with "any" viable reasons, which state what negative impacts or damages that homosexuality imposes on society as a whole.

The reason that they can't is simple. When all of the religious arguments are scraped away from any debate...the threads go completely flat.

And the real stickler is: They won't even say that their arguments are based on facts or opinions. There are rarely ever any postings that includes sources when claims or rebuttals are made.

ALL WE GET IS...their personal opinions, which are based on their personal belief systems, which is rarely, if ever, related to any scientific studies OR just everyday observable behaviors that are undeniable to society.

When we get opinions posted over and over, without any origin of facts used to voice opinions...it makes arguments...unarguable.

Many arguments like "Natural or Unnatural" derails important questions such as "How is homosexuality wrong? Even the word "unnatural" doesn't define "right or wrong". It simply means "Inconsistent with an individual pattern or custom or deviating from a behavioral or social norm."

"Natural law theory" is a label that has been applied to theories of ethics, theories of politics, theories of civil law, and theories of religious morality.

So don't expect any concrete arguments in any forum related to this topic by those who can only voice personal opinions.

THANKS for once again asking your question above. It has been asked over and over...without any results.
 
I don't think it's natural either, but to be honest...whether it is or isn't is not a deciding factor on whether or not we'll make it legal. Basically, the nature of homosexuality is a moot point. So when someone says "it's natural....bonobo's do it"....it's irrelevant.

RamFel said:
Well, since it IS unnatural, then SSM can't happen.
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Airplanes aren't natural. Is there something fundamentally wrong with air travel? Is flying a sin?

Secondly, is homosexual sex more or less natural than masturbation? Sex is clearly a two person activity. Doing it alone seems really wrong under the circumstances.

If you ask me, the natural/unnatural question doesn't really matter, because every "unnatural" thing we do is based on something natural. So everything is really natural. And by no means does natural mean right and unnatural mean wrong.
 
RamFel said:
Are you kidding me? I've been asking all of you guys for proof, and all I get is that gay sex is natural because it says so in the dictionary.

YOU SHOW PROOF WITH LINKS.
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You've already provided the proof that gay sex is natural with a definition that is commonly known... and could easily be posted with links. The onous is now on you, since you have now changed your mind and disagree with the definition. Post YOUR definition... with LINKS.
 
RamFel said:
Well, since it IS unnatural, then SSM can't happen.
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Well since it IS natural... based on the evidence that you provided, it CAN happen.
 
RamFel said:
No. The real BS argument is that it's natural because the dictionary says it is.
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I know. Your crying because you pwned yourself in this debate. You kept using the term, but didn't even bother to check and see what the term meant... posting it, thinking that you'd prove something. And you did prove something. You proved that your position is a failure. This is why I so enjoy debating folks like you on this issue. The ignorance that you have on homosexuality is only matched by your self-righteousness. When you combine the two, we get what you did here: self-pwnage.
 
mac said:
I don't think it's natural either, but to be honest...whether it is or isn't is not a deciding factor on whether or not we'll make it legal. Basically, the nature of homosexuality is a moot point. So when someone says "it's natural....bonobo's do it"....it's irrelevant.
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So, does this mean that you will no longer be presenting the the natural/unnatural argument?
 
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