View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    In 1992, a study conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that only 26% of men 18 to 59 and 20% of women 18 to 59 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex; a similar 2005 survey (also conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) found a rising incidence of anal sex relations in the American heterosexual population. The survey showed that 40% of men and 35% of women between 25 and 44 had engaged in heterosexual anal sex.[42] In terms of overall numbers of survey respondents, seven times as many women as gay men said that they engaged in anal intercourse, with this figure reflecting the larger heterosexual population size.[43] According to the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior (NSSHB), although anal intercourse is reported by fewer women than other partnered sex behaviors, partnered women in the age groups between 18-49 are significantly more likely to report having anal sex in the past 90 days.[44]

    In a 2007 report entitled Prevalence and Correlates of Heterosexual Anal and Oral Sex in Adolescents and Adults in the United States, published in the Journal of Infectious Disease, a national survey of Family Growth found that 34% men and 30% women reported ever participating in heterosexual anal sex. The percentage of participants reporting heterosexual anal sex was significantly higher among 20- to 24-year-olds and peaked among 30- to 34-year-olds.[45][46] Another survey in, 2008, focused on a much younger demographic of teenagers and young adults, aged 15–21. It found that 16% of 1350 surveyed had had this type of sex in the previous 3 months, with condoms being used 29% of the time.[47] However, given the subject matter, the survey hypothesized the prevalence was probably underestimated.

    In 2009, Kimberly R. McBride published a clinical report in The Journal of Sex Research which stated that changing norms may affect the frequency of heterosexual anal sex behaviors and suggests that there is a role for the exotic in the sexual repertoires of some heterosexuals" "[F]or a certain number of heterosexuals, anal intercourse is pleasurable, exciting, and perhaps considered more intimate than vaginal sex...". McBride and her colleagues investigated the prevalence of non-intercourse anal sex behaviors among a sample of men (n=1,299) and women (n=1,919) compared to anal intercourse experience and found that 51% of men and 43% of women had participated in at least one act of oral–anal sex, manual–anal sex, or anal sex toy use.[45][48] McBride and Janssen found that the majority of men (n=631) and women (n=856) who reported heterosexual anal intercourse in the past 12 months were in exclusive, monogamous relationships: 69% and 73%, respectively.[45][48]

    Figures for prevalence can vary amongst different demographics, regions, and nationalities. A 2001 French survey of five hundred female respondents concluded that a total of 29% had engaged in this practice, with one third of these confirming to have enjoyed the experience.[49] In contrast, in a 1999 South Korean survey of 586 women, 3.5% of respondents reported having had this type of sex.[50]

    Figures for the prevalence of sexual behavior can also fluctuate over time. Edward O. Laumann's 1992 survey, reported in The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States, found that about 20% of heterosexuals had engaged in male-to-female anal sex. Sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, working in the 1940s, had found that number to be closer to 40% at the time. More recently, a researcher from the University of British Columbia in 2005 put the number of heterosexuals who have engaged in this practice at between 30% and 50%.[51] According to Columbia University's health website Go Ask Alice!: "Studies indicate that about 25 percent of heterosexual couples have had anal sex at least once, and 10 percent regularly have anal penetration."[52]
    Next time you get your info from wiki you should add a link so I don't have to find this...

    By the 1950s in the United Kingdom, it was thought that about fifteen percent of male homosexuals had anal sex.[69][Full citation needed] More recent studies, The Gay Urban Men's Study (P.I. Stall, UCSF) and the Young Men's Study (YMS, PI Osmond/Catania, UCSF), indicate that 50% of the surveyed men who have sex with men engage in anal sex.[70][Full citation needed] [71][Full citation needed] The 1994 Laumann study suggests that 80% of gay men practice it and 20% never engage in it at all.[72]

    You mite also want to use the studies of actual homosexuals.

    Just wanted to add this from your source...

    The National Institutes of Health (NIH), with information published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ), states that two thirds of gay men have anal sex.[56] Other sources suggest that roughly three-fourths of gay men have anal sex at one time or another in their lives, with an equal percentage participating as tops and bottoms.[58] A survey in The Advocate in 1994 indicated that 46% of gay men preferred to penetrate their partners, while 43% preferred to be the receptive partner.[58] A survey conducted from 1994 to 1997 in San Francisco by the Stop AIDS Project indicated that over the course of the study, among men who have sex with men, the proportion engaging in anal sex increased from 57.6% to 61.2%.[73]
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The bolded portion of your statement shows ideology that is ignorant at best, hateful at worst. Homosexuals are just as respectable as anyone else. They work, care for their families, love their children and their partners, just like everyone else. And their children are not "seemingly happy." They are happy, because they love their parents and their parents' love them.

    Your willingness to prejudge and condemn people you do not even know is profoundly troubling.
    Maybe your right. Maybe two guys (or two girls), having unnatural gay sex, gives them lots more respectability. Yeah, I'm sure.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Sexual intercourse between two homesuxual. Any act between two homosexuals that provides sexual pleasure.
    OK. That includes oral sex, mutual masturbation, sex with toys, etc...

    My religion has no issue with these things.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Maybe your right. Maybe two guys (or two girls), having unnatural gay sex, gives them lots more respectability. Yeah, I'm sure.
    Sex is natural, period. It's not unnatural simply because you are weirded out by it.

    Why do you insist on making people about their sexual orientation?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Why yes, they were. It's a horrifying site. Why should I, or anyone else, have to deal with that?
    Because you have no right to not be offended. Don't like it? Don't look. Otherwise, too bad.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK. That includes oral sex, mutual masturbation, sex with toys, etc...

    My religion has no issue with these things.
    Neither does mine.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Because it’s deceptive.

    I see two seemingly normal families, the picture of health and happiness. This is the very stuff that propaganda and indoctrination is made from. What could be so threatening about these two pictures, with the fresh faces, the sun shining, the seemingly happy kids?

    But hold on. That’s what makes these pictures so bad. These pictures are just as dangerous as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate”, in that it seeks to normalize something unnatural. It’s like taking a criminal to trail, and dressing him up in a respectable outfit so that the jury will take pity on him. You’re trying to give gays an air of respectability. I think that trying to do that by showing this picture is a really sick thing to do.
    You've already told us that homosexuality is natural, so I don't know what you are talking about.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Maybe your right. Maybe two guys (or two girls), having unnatural gay sex, gives them lots more respectability. Yeah, I'm sure.
    Again, what's with this "unnatural" stuff? You've already proven that homosexuality is natural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Again, what's with this "unnatural" stuff? You've already proven that homosexuality is natural.
    I'm not sure what natural/unnatural has to do with social acceptability. I'm pretty sure that bouncing a ball up a down and throwing it into a hoop doesn't exist in "nature."
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Sex is natural, period. It's not unnatural simply because you are weirded out by it.

    Why do you insist on making people about their sexual orientation?
    BDB... he already proved that homosexuality and all behaviors associated with it are natural. Here... let me show you:

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    Natural: existing in, or formed by nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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