View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Jesus never got involved with the politics of Rome, ever. The Bible describes a system not for government, but our spiritual salvation. We are supposed to lead by example and treat everyone fairly without judging to the point of being hypocrites.

    Fornication, adultery and incest etc are all moral sins in the Bible. So I can't understand why my fellow Christians are not speaking out on those as well. Should we not be striving for harsher divorce laws? What about people caught fornicating? Fact is we are to lead by example and not enforce religious law on the civilians of a secular nation. Even Jesus himself said "render unto Cesar."

    Our laws (as in the U.S.) are supposed to give equal protection for all under the law. They are not equal right now. Homosexuals sin, but he who is without sin throw the first stone.
    Having belonged to a 'grace-based' church, I can't help wondering if all of this is the law He set us free from.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Having belonged to a 'grace-based' church, I can't help wondering if all of this is the law He set us free from.
    What is a grace-based church?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Having belonged to a 'grace-based' church, I can't help wondering if all of this is the law He set us free from.
    Unless you are Jewish or a noahide, the old law never applied to you anyway. The New Covenant is to free us from sin through his blood. This does not mean however we are not sinners and still need forgiveness.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What is a grace-based church?
    It's been awhile, and I want to give a good, true answer. Please wait about an hour so I can wrap up my job and do some research.

    The church in question is here: Church of the Open Door

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What is a grace-based church?
    This is a good example:

    http://www.gracecommunityfayette.org/core%20values.pdf

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Here we be! He references Jeff VV, he's the one who wrote the book I was thinking of.

    http://www.arcogworship.org/news/Jan...Newsletter.pdf

    Jeff has a lot of great books.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    The answer is immaterial because in the end it's a personal choice that has been drilled into the heads of so many that it's never going away until the Second Coming, then we'll know.

    The Bible says it's a sin and therefore wrong. God created Adam and Eve and not two men. There are some fish who can change sex and reproduce but no other creature can that I know of.

    Don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah, and why.



    Of course if you are a Godless heathen nothing is out of bounds not even the murder of babies. Of course the same people claim they are for human rights.
    Last edited by Councilman; 06-02-11 at 09:57 PM.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So why is this so threatening to you?



    Because it’s deceptive.

    I see two seemingly normal families, the picture of health and happiness. This is the very stuff that propaganda and indoctrination is made from. What could be so threatening about these two pictures, with the fresh faces, the sun shining, the seemingly happy kids?

    But hold on. That’s what makes these pictures so bad. These pictures are just as dangerous as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate”, in that it seeks to normalize something unnatural. It’s like taking a criminal to trail, and dressing him up in a respectable outfit so that the jury will take pity on him. You’re trying to give gays an air of respectability. I think that trying to do that by showing this picture is a really sick thing to do.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Because it’s deceptive.

    I see two seemingly normal families, the picture of health and happiness. This is the very stuff that propaganda and indoctrination is made from. What could be so threatening about these two pictures, with the fresh faces, the sun shining, the seemingly happy kids?

    But hold on. That’s what makes these pictures so bad. These pictures are just as dangerous as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate”, in that it seeks to normalize something unnatural. It’s like taking a criminal to trail, and dressing him up in a respectable outfit so that the jury will take pity on him. You’re trying to give gays an air of respectability. I think that trying to do that by showing this picture is a really sick thing to do.
    The bolded portion of your statement shows ideology that is ignorant at best, hateful at worst. Homosexuals are just as respectable as anyone else. They work, care for their families, love their children and their partners, just like everyone else. And their children are not "seemingly happy." They are happy, because they love their parents and their parents' love them.

    Your willingness to prejudge and condemn people you do not even know is profoundly troubling.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Because it’s deceptive.

    I see two seemingly normal families, the picture of health and happiness. This is the very stuff that propaganda and indoctrination is made from. What could be so threatening about these two pictures, with the fresh faces, the sun shining, the seemingly happy kids?

    But hold on. That’s what makes these pictures so bad. These pictures are just as dangerous as “Heather Has Two Mommies” and “Daddy’s Roommate”, in that it seeks to normalize something unnatural. It’s like taking a criminal to trail, and dressing him up in a respectable outfit so that the jury will take pity on him. You’re trying to give gays an air of respectability. I think that trying to do that by showing this picture is a really sick thing to do.
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