View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Apples and oranges, but funny!

    I don't know, some people think animals reason and communicate like people so who's to say they don't have their own religion?
    Hey, maybe they do. No way to know for sure. If they do, though, at least it doesnt stop them from having gay sex like ours do.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Hey, maybe they do. No way to know for sure. If they do, though, at least it doesnt stop them from having gay sex like ours do.
    No one is stopping anyone from having gay sex. They are stopping them from getting married.

    Since animals (as far as we know) don't get married, they don't care, lol.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So do you also condemn people who masturbate? Given that the hand is not a reproductive organ and masturbation cannot result in procreation it must also be an "unnatural" act as well. About 90% of people masturbate so would you argue they all act in an unnatural fashion?

    How about oral sex? Would it also be unnatural? The mouth is not a reproductive organ, so I imagine you view heterosexuals who engage in oral sex with the same stringent mind set you have towards gays since that act can't lead to procreation.
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
    Why? What business is it of yours?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
    Why? Gay's are a part of this society right or wrong and under a secular government why shouldn't they have all the same rights and privileges?

    I mean I don't want to be involved in a gay relationship, but have them go back in the closet? That is so medieval in thought. It's 2011, time to move on.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
    For the third time: If you don't want to hear about it, that's completely understandable. I sympathize. I think buttsecks is kinda gross too. That doesnt give you or me the right to stop people from getting married if they want to. The burden is on you guys. Unless you can give some compelling reason why gays shouldnt be able to marry, it should be a given.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
    Thankfully, you don't have the right to make that demand or dictate that to others.. You don't have to agree.. But whether your do or not is irrelevent and does not determine the rights of others..

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Why? Gay's are a part of this society right or wrong and under a secular government why shouldn't they have all the same rights and privileges?

    I mean I don't want to be involved in a gay relationship, but have them go back in the closet? That is so medieval in thought. It's 2011, time to move on.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    For the third time: If you don't want to hear about it, that's completely understandable. I sympathize. I think buttsecks is kinda gross too. That doesnt give you or me the right to stop people from getting married if they want to. The burden is on you guys. Unless you can give some compelling reason why gays shouldnt be able to marry, it should be a given.
    Just to make the point: most gays do not engage in anal sex.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
    So what does homosexuality being "unnatural" have to do with you wanting it to only being spoken about in secrecy and not socially accepted? How exactly is embracing an act like homosexuality any different than embracing an act like masturbation? Do you think that masturbation should be publicly shunned and anyone who admits to engaging in it should be shamed?
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