View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You do realize most if not all of that has now been corrected. We also have direct study guides that explain the original language and uses for certain words.

    You are also trying to overturn a basic (accurate translation) on homosexuality in both testaments. Sorry will not fly.

    Not true at all. The basic Commandments of Jesus and the apostles etc in the NT are intact as law.



    I did not attack anyones faith, I told them what the Bible says. Nothing more nothing less.

    If correcting someone on scripture is an "attack" label me guilty.




    Red that is all bull****. You have attacked my faith earlier in this thread, so your statement is not true. In fact you attacked it like what 3 pages back or more?

    Fact: OT very clear on basic commandments including men with men etc.
    Fact: Jesus very clear on who could be married.
    Fact: Paul Very clear on men with men etc.

    You can twist all you want, but the truth is the truth.
    I would just like to point out, that it doesn't matter what Jesus or God says when it comes to social issues like gay marriage. No religion should be allowed to dictate the laws of our country.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Fact: OT very clear on basic commandments including men with men etc.
    Fact: Jesus very clear on who could be married.
    Fact: Paul Very clear on men with men etc.

    You can twist all you want, but the truth is the truth.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Fact: OT very clear on basic commandments including men with men etc.
    Fact: Jesus very clear on who could be married.
    Fact: Paul Very clear on men with men etc.

    You can twist all you want, but the truth is the truth.
    Let's see. The OT is out since we have the whole New Covenant thing. Jesus was talking about divorce when he talked about marriage, not about who could and could not get married. Paul was talking pretty much about his own time in strongly worded letters that he had no voice in putting in the Bible.

    But I guess if you take it out of context...

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You do realize most if not all of that has now been corrected. We also have direct study guides that explain the original language and uses for certain words.

    You are also trying to overturn a basic (accurate translation) on homosexuality in both testaments. Sorry will not fly.
    And you take one small part, argue with it and ignore the entirety of what was said. Why did you make it a point to focus on one sentence and ignore the rest? I know the answer, will you admit it?

    Not true at all. The basic Commandments of Jesus and the apostles etc in the NT are intact as law.
    And again with evasions. What about the entire rest of the bible, including those parts expurgated out?

    I did not attack anyones faith, I told them what the Bible says. Nothing more nothing less.


    If correcting someone on scripture is an "attack" label me guilty.
    You quite clearly attacked YS's faith. You can call it what you want.

    Red that is all bull****. You have attacked my faith earlier in this thread, so your statement is not true. In fact you attacked it like what 3 pages back or more?

    Fact: OT very clear on basic commandments including men with men etc.
    Fact: Jesus very clear on who could be married.
    Fact: Paul Very clear on men with men etc.

    You can twist all you want, but the truth is the truth.
    You mean after you attacked other people's beliefs? That would be the point, yes.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Washington D.C. View Post
    I would just like to point out, that it doesn't matter what Jesus or God says when it comes to social issues like gay marriage. No religion should be allowed to dictate the laws of our country.
    Well, apparently BD agrees on that point, it's just that he's so busy believing that all gays and lesbians who act on their feelings are going to hell, that we can't move past that point.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    So I'm good right
    It was dudes who wrote the bible, and we all know dudes dig lesbians. It's gay guys that make them feel all funny.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Let's see. The OT is out since we have the whole New Covenant thing. Jesus was talking about divorce when he talked about marriage, not about who could and could not get married. Paul was talking pretty much about his own time in strongly worded letters that he had no voice in putting in the Bible.

    But I guess if you take it out of context...
    Jesus made a statement about more than just divorce. You know this but don't want to admit it. The NT and OT both condemn homosexuality, end of story. Twist it however you like but you know the truth in your hart.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And you take one small part, argue with it and ignore the entirety of what was said. Why did you make it a point to focus on one sentence and ignore the rest? I know the answer, will you admit it?
    What are you talking about? I mentioned fornication and adultery before. Do I have to rewrite everything I said every time now?

    It is also what we are talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And again with evasions. What about the entire rest of the bible, including those parts expurgated out?
    You do realise the Bible is not one book? It is 66 books and a few more the Catholics added later. It is the sum total of it'a parts. Take it as it is or leave it. Either way it is the word of God.

    As it sits now nothing is missing at all. If God had wanted it in there, it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You quite clearly attacked YS's faith. You can call it what you want.
    Please show an example. Last time I looked quoting scripture to someone who is a self professed Christian is not attacking ones faith. She tried to accuse me of talking for her, I showed I was not and that it was according to the Bible.

    So you can take that to the bank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You mean after you attacked other people's beliefs? That would be the point, yes.
    Oh no you didn't...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059522379

    Before I said anything.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post

    Please show an example. Last time I looked quoting scripture to someone who is a self professed Christian is not attacking ones faith. She tried to accuse me of talking for her, I showed I was not and that it was according to the Bible.
    You said my beliefs were wrong because of what you believed, and said I was ignoring scripture(instead of just having a different interpretation of them) and said taht I know I was wrong. How is that not speaking for me?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    What are you talking about? I mentioned fornication and adultery before. Do I have to rewrite everything I said every time now?

    It is also what we are talking about.
    And now you take it even further afield. Let me refresh your memory with what I sad:

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress
    You are trying to twist this. The point is that it is people who chose what is canon and what is not. It was people who transcribed down what they thought god had said to people. It was people who translated those writings(and created strange things like Mary being a virgin to meet a translation error in a prophesy). It was people who edited out things they did not like. It was people who decided what was allegory and what was literal.
    Notice how a grand total of 1 sentence is about translation, and that is the only thing you addressed.


    You do realise the Bible is not one book? It is 66 books and a few more the Catholics added later. It is the sum total of it'a parts. Take it as it is or leave it. Either way it is the word of God.

    As it sits now nothing is missing at all. If God had wanted it in there, it would be.
    So god decided that the Deuterocanonical books should not be included? Or should they? You are aware that there are versions of the bible with up to 81 books. Where did the rest go from yours? Who decides if this book or that belongs(Hint: it ain't god)?


    Please show an example. Last time I looked quoting scripture to someone who is a self professed Christian is not attacking ones faith. She tried to accuse me of talking for her, I showed I was not and that it was according to the Bible.

    So you can take that to the bank.



    Oh no you didn't...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059522379

    Before I said anything.
    Telling some one explaining their beliefs they are wrong is attacking their faith.
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