View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What should be noted is that this, too, is an unproven belief. Can you scientifically prove that one can have a sense of right and wrong without believing in sin, Your Star? I think you cannot. What validates your belief? A feeling?

    Nonreligious people can have legions of beliefs uinproven, as well. Yours is no exception.
    Most everyone has a sense of right, and wrong, and the belief in sin has no bearing on that.

    And if your asking for scientific proof, scientifically prove sin. I eagerly await this.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What should be noted is that this, too, is an unproven belief. Can you scientifically prove that one can have a sense of right and wrong without believing in sin, Your Star? I think you cannot. What validates your belief? A feeling?

    Nonreligious people can have legions of beliefs uinproven, as well. Yours is no exception.
    Atheists and the non-religious can still have beliefs on what is right and wrong. Religion and faith isn't required for this. You don't need to believe in sin to believe that murder is wrong and should be punished or that giving to the needy is good.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Social norms are absolute?

    No. No, they are not.

    Society can feel to do whatever it wants.

    Why should polygamists and incestic people care for your belief in normality? Oh hoh, are you bigoted, perhaps?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What should be noted is that this, too, is an unproven belief. Can you scientifically prove that one can have a sense of right and wrong without believing in sin, Your Star? I think you cannot. What validates your belief? A feeling?
    I have a sense of right and wrong and don't believe in sin.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    I voted its not wrong but unnatural if it were natural two men or women could procreate.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    People are against murder because they don't like it. Doesn't mean it's wrong, right? Like =/= absolute.

    Shocking, yes?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I have a sense of right and wrong and don't believe in sin.
    And why is that, CriticalThought? What validates your belief? A feeling? Something deep within hat makes you feel absolutely convinced that you alone are right in your beliefs? You aren't absolute.

    Why do you believe what you believe? Can you even prove it? What makes your belief better than an unlikeable belief that also can't be proven? Popularity?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    I just want to point out that something naturally occurring in animals or humans does not necessarily equate to normal. Many traits found in creatures can be considered a flaw yet be naturally occurring. Many genes can be affected by all sorts of influences that end with a negative result.

    Now before you start bashing me and claim that I am saying being gay is a flaw I am just asking persons to keep an open mind and consider that it is possible it may be found in time to be just that. Now Im not saying that it is wrong or unacceptable only that it may be a defect in biology. We will often times base our acceptance on the end result. For example say X gene is known to cause a high percentage of cancer, we would consider that to be a flaw. However if X gene made us live 40% longer we would consider that a positive gene and not a flaw but in reality they both could be flaws. Its just one has a positive outcome and the other negative by our views.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    In nature, some animals will eat their mate or mate before they die.
    And?

    You are talking about insects which are very different from us. I already indicated that we can not only look at animals and that the closer the relation the more usueful. You still deployed the strawman, anyway. Wow!

    My arguments come from biology and the design and function of the human reproductive system.
    Which are not that different than the reproductive systems of bonobos, bison or even penguins, IN THIS CASE. None of those species can procreate through same sex couplings. You have not identified a relevant distinction.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Most everyone has a sense of right, and wrong, and the belief in sin has no bearing on that.

    And if your asking for scientific proof, scientifically prove sin. I eagerly await this.
    Feelings are for naught if unprovable. They all, and I mean all, become equal.

    Prove that any belief can be scientifically proven.

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