View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is a valid argument. My church will not marry gays, simple. If they get married in some UU church etc, cool. Only because civil unions are unrealistic and they deserve the same rights. This does not make what they do a marriage nor does it make it right.
    You didn't answer my question.

    Churches have the right to decide who they will and won't marry. Not the question.

    Why is a totally baseless opinion, that even the adherers won't even try to defend, and is based on their imagined deity, a valid argument in a secular country?

    If they want to huddle amongst themselves in their church and agree the gays can't get married there, fine. That's theirs.

    But out in reality, when you want to deny someone their rights, people are going to ask you why and expect you to have a reason.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    That's the point I made in frustration earlier today. I don't actually believe that gays getting married can do any more damage to "the institution of marriage" than the straights have already done.
    I have some skin in this, my SIL is gay.
    She and her partner are wonderful, love them very much and nothing would make me more happy, than to see them be able to wed legally.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    My neighbors were like that when I was a kid.
    These guys looked like your average joes but they'd been together for a long time.
    Like most gay people. Once people realize that we are just as normal, and varied as straight people, we have won.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sadly, so do I. Of the couples who married from our church back when I married, all freinds, only my wife and I are still married. All the others (5 others) had affairs and divorced. I laugh because we were seen by the pastor as most likley to fail.


    Everyone, my parents and my wife's parents said the same thing.
    My parents are separated now.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Bunk. The ability to get married promotes nothing as we see in modern marriage. The proof is in the pudding.
    The offer proof. Put up. Show me a study of married gays versus married strait people, and unmarried gays versus unmarried strati people. Let's get an honest comparison. You made the claim, can you back it up.

    It's about gays who want the same rights as married couples. I have no problem with that

    Of course this has little to do with me supporting so <--- Admittedly vague, but that's what I meant.

    I mentioned it more than one time.
    At one time, recently in fact, you supported civil unions with the same rights as marriage, but not being actual marriage. You and I went around and around on this, with me questioning why if it is the same, you had to call it something different. Now read those two comments with that in mind and see if they could not be taken as your support for civil unions still.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    But I have always supported CU, so why is this so hard for people to see? In fact I mentioned it a month ago.
    But that's not SSM, and I haven't noticed you post in several months so forgive me if I don't know your positions are if I have not read your posts.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    You didn't answer my question.

    Churches have the right to decide who they will and won't marry. Not the question.

    Why is a totally baseless opinion, that even the adherers won't even try to defend, and is based on their imagined deity, a valid argument in a secular country?

    If they want to huddle amongst themselves in their church and agree the gays can't get married there, fine. That's theirs.

    But out in reality, when you want to deny someone their rights, people are going to ask you why and expect you to have a reason.
    What part of God says it's a sin are you missing?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post


    Everyone, my parents and my wife's parents said the same thing.
    My parents are separated now.
    You just know about these things.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Like most gay people. Once people realize that we are just as normal, and varied as straight people, we have won.
    So far, I've seen families completely accept it and I've seen them completely throw their kids away.

    It's not right, at all.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    But that's not SSM, and I haven't noticed you post in several months so forgive me if I don't know your positions are if I have not read your posts.
    Irrelevant, you should be reading what I am posting NOW and not attributing things to me I did not say.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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