View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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    107 38.63%
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    16 5.78%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    By all means feel free to support that. However, even if true, there may be reasons, like a lack of marrital structure that would help stablize relationships. If we want this stability, shouldn't we promote it,. . with . . let's say something like marriage?

    Just saying . . .
    I agree. I support gay marriage. People are just making assumption based on knee jerk reactions. Thanks for not jumping on that boat. This does not however change my view about the majority of gay men or men in general, lol.

    PS being that I am one as well.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Please point out where I said all homosexuals are meth addicted sex slaves??? Man please get a clue, lol.
    A clue of what? It wasn't intended to be a repeating of what you said. It was intended to absurdify your position, which I did successfully given your reaction, and yet I suppose you fail to see how this relates to what you said, since you didn't address any of the rest of my post.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is much more than that. So I will disagree.
    Personal marriage is (hopefully) much more than that. Legal marriage isn't. Legal marriage is basically just as I described it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You just said the same thing again. Gay marriage is not the same and not about family. Nothing you say can ever convince me of that. If it was about the family, and I witnessed it being about the family I mite think that is a valid reason, it's not. Of course this has little to do with me supporting so.

    Same as above.

    Not interested.
    Not every opposite sex marriage is about making/raising a family either. That is where I think hypocrisy lies in this whole debate. People should be either pushing to make marriage about procreation and/or raising a family, and limit opposite sex marriage to this, and open up marriage to those same sex couples who are raising children, in the same way it is done for opposite sex couples or it has to be equally open to both opposite and same sex couples, whether they are raising children or not, whether they can have children or not. Otherwise, SSM bans are unconstitutional as the Constitution is currently.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    A clue of what? It wasn't intended to be a repeating of what you said. It was intended to absurdify your position, which I did successfully given your reaction, and yet I suppose you fail to see how this relates to what you said, since you didn't address any of the rest of my post.
    Your position is what is absurd, not mine. Men in general will **** anything that moves in most cases, this is a fact. Take away the female reserve and what do you get? My friend you are making absurd statements that literally have nothing to do with my true statements, period.

    The rest is not worth responding to. Nothing but knee jerk reactions that have little barring to me or my views.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And I stand by that statement in the case of gay men. It is not a stereo type, it is true, they are men, lol.
    It's an absolute statement and does not apply to everyone. It restricts those who are not "hedonistic" from marrying and having kids. It's like determining whether people should marry based on behavior at Club Med.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Personal marriage is (hopefully) much more than that. Legal marriage isn't. Legal marriage is basically just as I described it.
    In your secular opinion, not mine.


    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not every opposite sex marriage is about making/raising a family either. That is where I think hypocrisy lies in this whole debate. People should be either pushing to make marriage about procreation and/or raising a family, and limit opposite sex marriage to this, and open up marriage to those same sex couples who are raising children, in the same way it is done for opposite sex couples or it has to be equally open to both opposite and same sex couples, whether they are raising children or not, whether they can have children or not. Otherwise, SSM bans are unconstitutional as the Constitution is currently.
    Other marriages don't have to be, they are already legal and in the states best interest as they are the majority.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Erthics are agreed up on standards. Law ethics for example, in which lawyers go before the law board, are those standards lawyers agree to and not their own personal standards.
    And what are those standards based on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It's an absolute statement and does not apply to everyone. It restricts those who are not "hedonistic" from marrying and having kids. It's like determining whether people should marry based on behavior at Club Med.
    My statement was not absolute, if you read it I was talking about a majority yes, but not all gay men. The last part about club med is funny if not applicable.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Even personal morality is based on something. Even if it's simply the emotional reaction is causes in society. People tend to think about whether their morals are true - even if it's just for them. In the public sphere and in law, though, attempts (increasingly successful over time) at objective morality are the rule.

    Sin requires no ethics at all. That's the point. It is simply fiated into existence and whether it has a basis or a train of thought connected to it is irrelevant.
    Sin didn't just develop out of thin air. It came from SOMEWHERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    By all means feel free to support that. However, even if true, there may be reasons, like a lack of marrital structure that would help stablize relationships. If we want this stability, shouldn't we promote it,. . with . . let's say something like marriage?

    Just saying . . .
    Yup... I've been saying this for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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