View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

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  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Im still waiting for someone to explain to me why it matters on this issue. With the fact we are in America and the fact that the answers are 100% subjective its meaningless. The only goal by the OP is a failed attempt to bash homosexuality, problem is, the objective smart people wont let him and see right through it lol
    We all know how powerful the Gay Recruitment Coalition is. I mean they have every school, YMCA and street corner with recruiters waiting, watching, and hunting down young kids to convert in to gay. And even worse...there's rumor that homosexuality could well be contagious.

    Centralist...don't you think that your being a little hard on heteros? Don't you think that most don't really like engaging in bashing?

    I know it's gonna be difficult for many to fight off their inner gay, but somehow about 96 percent of the heterosexuals do. It's amazing feat, but heterosexual are a truly resilient, steadfast bunch. In fact, just your position on this matter might make you a anti-moral suspect.

    As a straight white guy...I know how fearful I've had to live my life. It's been completely stressful constantly dodging all of the recruiters and inner urges.

    A lot of people need to get a hobby rather than worry themselves about something that they are totally powerless over...including their own sexuality.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    We all know how powerful the Gay Recruitment Coalition is. I mean they have every school, YMCA and street corner with recruiters waiting, watching, and hunting down young kids to convert in to gay. And even worse...there's rumor that homosexuality could well be contagious.

    Centralist...don't you think that your being a little hard on heteros? Don't you think that most don't really like engaging in bashing?

    I know it's gonna be difficult for many to fight off their inner gay, but somehow about 96 percent of the heterosexuals do. It's amazing feat, but heterosexual are a truly resilient, steadfast bunch. In fact, just your position on this matter might make you a anti-moral suspect.

    As a straight white guy...I know how fearful I've had to live my life. It's been completely stressful constantly dodging all of the recruiters and inner urges.

    A lot of people need to get a hobby rather than worry themselves about something that they are totally powerless over...including their own sexuality.
    LMAO!!!!!

    I love the sarcasm, its great, I agree I also have no clue how I have also stayed straight this long.

    or should I say <in a stereotypical flamboyant gay voice>
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    But mac... again it's the wording you use. If you agree with the statement, you should be using the term "sexual orientation", yet you do not. You separate homosexuality and heterosexuality in unequal ways. If you believe that either situation mentioned is possible, you pretty much NEVER indicate it.
    Again, I said heterosexuality and homosexuality. Either one could be as natural as the other, one could be natural and the other not as well. I'm not misleading anything here.

    Besides, you have enough people here saying that homosexuality has been shown to be genetically caused. Period.....I've not seen any follow up from you about unclear language. The last time you told me my language wasn't clear as to whether or not I was expressing an opinion...the post led off with "in my opinion".....you're nit-picking me because I'm not following the party line.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Again, I said heterosexuality and homosexuality. Either one could be as natural as the other, one could be natural and the other not as well. I'm not misleading anything here.
    Do you believe that something being 'natural', equates with something being morally acceptable? If the two concepts are unrelated, what does it matter whether something is 'natural' or not? Internet forums aren't 'natural', but they're a good thing, aren't they? If none of this is about arguing that 'natural' means more acceptable, why are we discussing it? I don't see any threads debating whether computing is 'natural', or whether IVF is 'natural', whether gardening is 'natural'. Why should we care that sexuality is 'natural'?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This has nothing to do with my point. In modern studies it is 2% to 4% of the population is homosexual, not 10% I think.
    What I've seen is 4-8%. Still, pretty low.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Do you believe that something being 'natural', equates with something being morally acceptable?
    Not entirely. It can and it doesn't have too. It can be a factor in either determination.

    If the two concepts are unrelated, what does it matter whether something is 'natural' or not?
    Again, sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. To me, in this case...it's a factor in my stance.

    Internet forums aren't 'natural', but they're a good thing, aren't they? If none of this is about arguing that 'natural' means more acceptable, why are we discussing it? I don't see any threads debating whether computing is 'natural', or whether IVF is 'natural', whether gardening is 'natural'. Why should we care that sexuality is 'natural'?
    My only answer to that is because homosexuals are asking for a legal right...if homosexuality were indeed proven to not be a choice, or genetically driven, the American legal system would not be able to stand in the way of SSM.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    I place my lot with the King James Bible, regardless of what the world thinks.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    if homosexuality were indeed proven to not be a choice, or genetically driven, the American legal system would not be able to stand in the way of SSM.
    This seems to be a bit of a non-sequitur to me. Why would something that might be a matter of choice not be as deserving of equal legal status as something genetic? Let's think of an analogy. How about women driving. They don't have to, it's not genetically determined that they must, but they choose to. There's nothing that makes them genetically identical to men, so why can't society decide, arbitrarily, to deny women the right to drive?

    Perhaps there are better analogies, although the more I think about it, the more this one seems okay.

    I just can't see the nature vs. nurture vs. choice issue making any difference at all to the arguments for or against SSM.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I place my lot with the King James Bible, regardless of what the world thinks.
    I don't see you stoning adulterers or advocating for slavery so I don't buy you throw your lot in with the King James Bible. You throw your lot in with your personal interpretation of said book.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Agreed....I've said as much myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    This seems to be a bit of a non-sequitur to me. Why would something that might be a matter of choice not be as deserving of equal legal status as something genetic? Let's think of an analogy. How about women driving. They don't have to, it's not genetically determined that they must, but they choose to. There's nothing that makes them genetically identical to men, so why can't society decide, arbitrarily, to deny women the right to drive?

    Perhaps there are better analogies, although the more I think about it, the more this one seems okay.

    I just can't see the nature vs. nurture vs. choice issue making any difference at all to the arguments for or against SSM.
    Because we've set enough president in the us that you can not discriminTe against someone for the way they are born. That's not to say that you cant protect something that is a choice, like religion, but if it's genetic....it almost immediately removes the opposition and barricades to legal acceptance.
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