View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    I'd just like to point out for a moment that most fun things are "sinful". Nearly all sex is sinful, gambling is sinful, drinking is sinful, disobeying one's elders is sinful, thinking about sex is sinful, feeling envious is sinful, questioning authority is sinful.

    Pretty much everything that we enjoy and most expressions of free will are sins.

    Also, we get enjoyment from breaking the rules, which is also a sin.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    But that still means one of the bio parents is not in the kid's life.

    I assume the divorce rate is 50%. That's what everybody always says. What is the break-up rate among SS couples? Any studies on that? I really don't know.
    No good studies on breakup rates among SSM couples. The closest, and one used by NARTH(LoLz), was a study among AIDS patients in Europe that broke down it's numbers by marriage. However, as those selected for the study where AIDS patients, among other problems, makes the numbers meaningless in terms of how well SSM couples do. The problem right now is that SSM has not been legal anywhere long enough to actually get good numbers.

    For strait couples: I Don't: Divorce Rates by State - The Wall Street Journal Online - Interactive Graphics
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I'd just like to point out for a moment that most fun things are "sinful". Nearly all sex is sinful, gambling is sinful, drinking is sinful, disobeying one's elders is sinful, thinking about sex is sinful, feeling envious is sinful, questioning authority is sinful.

    Pretty much everything that we enjoy and most expressions of free will are sins.

    Also, we get enjoyment from breaking the rules, which is also a sin.
    I'm no bible scholar, but sex is not sinful within marriage. Gambling is stupid but sinful? if you're a baptist, yeah. Drinking to the point of drunkeness - way stupid (trust me I know this one well) and probably sinful biblically, but a couple after dinner? Probably safe.

    Envy is sinful and not much fun. Questioning authority? Nnnnn no. Where is that in the bible?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I'm no bible scholar, but sex is not sinful within marriage. Gambling is stupid but sinful? if you're a baptist, yeah. Drinking to the point of drunkeness - way stupid (trust me I know this one well) and probably sinful biblically, but a couple after dinner? Probably safe.

    Envy is sinful and not much fun. Questioning authority? Nnnnn no. Where is that in the bible?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No good studies on breakup rates among SSM couples. The closest, and one used by NARTH(LoLz), was a study among AIDS patients in Europe that broke down it's numbers by marriage. However, as those selected for the study where AIDS patients, among other problems, makes the numbers meaningless in terms of how well SSM couples do. The problem right now is that SSM has not been legal anywhere long enough to actually get good numbers.

    For strait couples: I Don't: Divorce Rates by State - The Wall Street Journal Online - Interactive Graphics

    Thanks. I'm not a statistics guy so that means little to me. It says

    Divorce rates were calculated using the number of divorces and annulments by state, collected in the National Vital Statistics Report from December 2008 to November 2009, divided by state population,
    So it includes widows/widowers and never married people?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Rebellion was the original sin. Lucifer rebelled against God.
    I take that to mean that rebellion against God is a sin.

    And way stupid.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    It is both sinless and natural. People do not choose to be homosexual, they are born that way and it happens in nature. There are many things in the Bible which should not be followed when it comes to government. Religion shouldn't even be in government. I could get into a lot more depth but that would take too much time unless somebody actually wants to hear it.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    But that still means one of the bio parents is not in the kid's life.
    Which is irrelevant to what research shows.

    I assume the divorce rate is 50%. That's what everybody always says. What is the break-up rate among SS couples? Any studies on that? I really don't know.
    Don't know. If I were to guess, I'd say that if SSM was made legal today, 10 years from now, we'd see the divorce rate between SS couples and opposite sex couples pretty much the same. People are people.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Animals are not human. Some animals can change sex as well. Has nothing to do with homosexuality or humans.
    Hate to brake it to you.. Humans are animals.. We are a part of nature just like every other species of animal.. We are just a different species.. So it does have something to do with us.. You can't seperate man from nature..

    Homosexuality is natural.. 100% natural.. There is no arguement otherwise..

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Im still waiting for someone to explain to me why it matters on this issue. With the fact we are in America and the fact that the answers are 100% subjective its meaningless. The only goal by the OP is a failed attempt to bash homosexuality, problem is, the objective smart people wont let him and see right through it lol
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