View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Sure, because it happens in nature is not a valid explanation for why it happens in humans. We can only assume that certain behaviors are instances of homosexual activity based on observation, when in fact the behavior could be non sexual to that actor.

    As far as logical fallacies go, this should help.
    Scientific study is an "appeal to nature"...that's far out, Mac...

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Whatever, an appeal to nature is an appeal to nature. If you want to discuss if its natural for humans, you have to explore human homosexuality....not bonobo or giraffe.
    Mac, I would ask, sincerely, when it was that you decided to become straight (and I assume that you are)?










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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Whatever, an appeal to nature is an appeal to nature. If you want to discuss if its natural for humans, you have to explore human homosexuality....not bonobo or giraffe.
    The appeal to nature fallacy though is a specific type of fallacy though that attempts to equate morality or something as being right or wrong with something being natural or unnatural.

    Fallacious: Appeal to Nature » Ziztur.com: Finding joy in being wrong

    If the argument is simply about how we determine if something is natural or not is not a logical fallacy but rather simply a disagreement as to how to determine if something is natural or not.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Whatever, an appeal to nature is an appeal to nature. If you want to discuss if its natural for humans, you have to explore human homosexuality....not bonobo or giraffe.
    And humans do it, without artificial intrusion, therefore it is natural for humans. Natural is not an indicator of something being morally right, as you seem to believe.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    sinful?
    well that depends on ones own few of it or their religion so the answer varies and since we are in america it is also meaningless

    unnatural?
    according to who and what? this also is TOTALLY subjective, theres people that would call anything but missionary sex position unnatural, or oral sex. SO again the answer varies and since we are in america it is also meaningless

    not sure the point of this thread?
    oh yes I am its to bait posters, troll and to bash homosexuals but it failed

    oh well guess there are more smart and objective people here than someone thought
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Mac, I would ask, sincerely, when it was that you decided to become straight (and I assume that you are)?
    What does that have to do with whether or not an appeal nature is a logical fallacy or not?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And humans do it, without artificial intrusion, therefore it is natural for humans. Natural is not an indicator of something being morally right, as you seem to believe.
    I don't believe that, but I also don't believe the homosexual intercourse is natural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The appeal to nature fallacy though is a specific type of fallacy though that attempts to equate morality or something as being right or wrong with something being natural or unnatural.

    Fallacious: Appeal to Nature » Ziztur.com: Finding joy in being wrong

    If the argument is simply about how we determine if something is natural or not is not a logical fallacy but rather simply a disagreement as to how to determine if something is natural or not.
    If you are trying to justify human activity by relating it to nature, it's a logical fallacy.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    And humans do it, without artificial intrusion, therefore it is natural for humans. Natural is not an indicator of something being morally right, as you seem to believe.
    Sex is another subject altogether when opportunity knocks.

    Show me a straight guy who wouldn't jump at the chance to join two bi-chicks in a manage-a-tois. All the moral pap and blather about homosexuality goes out the window in a heartbeat when opportunity knocks and "opportunity" happens to be two beautiful women. At that point sex ain't for procreation and heterosexuality doesn't mean diddly.










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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I don't believe that, but I also don't believe the homosexual intercourse is natural.
    How is homosexual sex artificial then?
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