View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

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  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

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  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is false:

    Left-handedness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Would you like to start again? I'm left handed. You may want to brush up on your knowledge of us.
    Yeah, I thought it was pretty common knowledge, nowadays, that handedness is biological.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Procreation and sexual orientation are two different things. Homosexuals can procreate and often do. This is just ONE of the many things that your post presented as ignorant. Now, you already seem like someone who has decided to NOT listen to actual information and facts, but if I have the time, I will be happy to educate you by demonstrating how most, if not all of what you said in your original post is completely invalid.
    I look forward to it, as I stated in my post. I have questions, and thoughts. If you can show me proof that I am wrong, then why would I not change my mind?

    I do wish that people would quit assuming I'm some ignorant, rhetoric spitting neanderthal. I am a human being like everyone else on this forum (until proven otherwise) and I seek to improve upon what I know. Some of that may conflict with your view on things, but it is through honest discussion and debate that we come to a better understanding.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is false:

    Left-handedness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Would you like to start again? I'm left handed. You may want to brush up on your knowledge of us.
    My knowledge of you seems to be that of a arrogant and pretentious bastard.

    However, I was not aware of these studies. I will happily peruse them for they seem intriguing. Not everyone is aware of what you are, someone as educated as you should have learned this from studies of infants. When they start to realize that people around them don't think with the same mind.

    Now, back to my original comments if we may. I am still waiting to hear where I am wrong or what is wrong with my thoughts.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Left handed or right handed is based upon tendencies developed over growth. To my knowledge, (and I haven't really studied this) It is not impacted in any way by a persons genetics. Unless of course there is some deformity on the opposing side. It is a deviation that has it's uses and continues in the natural breeding cycle. However, as you have stated that left handed people seem more capable in a number of areas. Why are blue or green eyes not more common? the tend to have better night vision and acuity. But darker eyes seem to prevail. Some traits are stronger and more durable than others.

    While a left handed person may seem more capable, that is compared to a background of right handed people. Why it played out is a number of possibilities.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Not everyone is aware of what you are, someone as educated as you should have learned this from studies of infants. When they start to realize that people around them don't think with the same mind.
    Eugenic national socialist.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Eugenic national socialist.
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    those are 3 traits that people would never associate with me. And after reading many of your posts, I'm not worried about offending you.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I look forward to it, as I stated in my post. I have questions, and thoughts. If you can show me proof that I am wrong, then why would I not change my mind?

    I do wish that people would quit assuming I'm some ignorant, rhetoric spitting neanderthal. I am a human being like everyone else on this forum (until proven otherwise) and I seek to improve upon what I know. Some of that may conflict with your view on things, but it is through honest discussion and debate that we come to a better understanding.
    OK, let's see if you are a man of your word. MOST folks who come here and post the stuff that you did, have no desire to alter their world view even when facts are presented to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Is homosexuality a sin? It is my belief based on my faith that it is. However, just as with the thief. I do not hate the individual. I will simply encourage them to make different choices. Dislike the actions, not the person.
    That's fine. I have zero issue with someone's religious beliefs or morality around homosexuality. As long as they apply those beliefs to themselves only.

    Is it unnatural? I would argue that it is.
    And you would be wrong. It occurs in nature. Therefore it is natural. If you are looking to use the words "statistically uncommon" you would be correct, however using the word "unnatural" is incorrect and inflammatory.

    I apologize in advance for the hatred or nasty comments this may inspire. But I wish to air these things to have a better understanding.
    OK.

    This is strongly based on the following evidence. The only way to produce off-spring in the natural world is for a human. To engage in intercourse with a member of the opposite sex. Therefore it would be logical to assume based on the compatibility of nature, that because two of the same gender will never produce off-spring. It is a useless deviation of the human species.
    Procreation is irrelevant to sexual orientation. Many gay folks have children naturally. As long as the "equipment" works, there is no reason why they can't procreate if they choose to.

    Now, based on this some people have gone to the point of ensuring these individuals do not reproduce. This i believe to be cruel and inhumane, these actions are unacceptable in civilized society.
    OK.

    However, since it can be proven that homosexuality is a non-viable continuation of the human species this question is worth asking:
    Again, sexual orientation has zero to do with procreation. There are certainly homosexuals who want to procreate and do. AND, I don't think there are many homosexuals who want homosexual children. They probably just want HEALTHY children.

    How much of the deviations in an individual can produce homosexual tendencies?
    -Genetic Hormonal Imbalance (ie Born this way)
    This indicates your bias that homosexuality is a "genetic disorder". This is unproven and, since both heterosexuality and homosexuality are, according to researchers, formed similarly, homosexuality is undoubtedly nothing but a deviation from the statistical norm. Like left-handedness, or being Jewish.

    -Social Conditioning (ie It's ok to experiment)
    Researchers also indicate that environment may have something to do with the formation of sexual orientation... homosexuality AND heterosexuality. You are separating the two which is incorrect.

    -Sexual Confusion/Abuse (ie I can't trust a man/woman)
    This is behavioral and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. There is an absolute difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation. A gay person may behave in a heterosexual way, and still be gay. The opposite is also true.

    these 3 reasons I believe are strong factors in the significant increase in "homosexual population".
    Your third reason has nothing to do with sexual orientation at all. You have offered no proof that the homosexual population has increased because of the first two... in fact you have shown no proof that the homosexual population has increased at all. Historically, gays have always encompassed between 4%-7% of the population. There has been no change in this statistic. Therefore, your entire premise is incorrect.

    The final basis for increases in homosexual population is manipulation. The belief that various groups wish to use the "victimized" status of homosexuals to change laws and place themselves in power as a champion to the oppressed. I urge caution, I do not believe being gay diminishes the humanity of a person. However I do believe in this day and age in increases the chances manipulation.
    Again, since your entire premise of an increase in the homosexual population is incorrect, this makes no sense.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    those are 3 traits that people would never associate with me. And after reading many of your posts, I'm not worried about offending you.
    You're a lost one. Mind christ, and he will mind you. Stay there.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?Alright, let's discuss the topic, not the individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK, let's see if you are a man of your word. MOST folks who come here and post the stuff that you did, have no desire to alter their world view even when facts are presented to them.
    Before I ask any further questions, I just want to say. Wow, and thank you.

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