View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    I can't really vote on this, Wake. From what I can tell it's not a sin, just against the rules, and whether it's right or wrong is really up to the society at large to decide.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Is homosexuality sinful?

    Yes. The Bible is very clear regarding this matter.

    Is this a value-judgment of homosexual persons?

    No. The Bible is very clear regarding this matter.
    All people--including gay-folks--are made in the image of God and are precious to Him.
    I think you just said that God is gay.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    There are scientific studies that show that most likely homosexuality existed millions and million of years "before" the human species evolved.

    But on a more modern note. Homosexuality is currently observed in animals. This said. People are animals. I know, I know... but we are.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    There are scientific studies that show that most likely homosexuality existed millions and million of years "before" the human species evolved.

    But on a more modern note. Homosexuality is currently observed in animals. This said. People are animals. I know, I know... but we are.
    appeal to nature....logical fallacy.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I think you just said that God is gay.
    As much as I hate to admit it I think CC nailed it. My appreciation for his post in no way means I agree with CC or the things that he does with his dog in private.










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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    appeal to nature....logical fallacy.
    Wanna "splain that?










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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Celibacy is unnatural.










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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    appeal to nature....logical fallacy.
    But isn't it part of the OP as to whether the act is natural or not? How exactly do you prove something is natural or not without bringing nature into the discussion?

    Don't get me wrong, I understand that natural is a subjective term, but it doesn't seem right to say that something is a logical fallacy when it is referencing the very definition of the word natural.

    natural - definition of natural by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    If we were talking in a context of laws for/against homosexuality, sure I can see appeal to nature fallacy. In fact, this whole thread could be pretty much seen as an appeal to nature fallacy since it equates sin/right/wrong/morality arguments with something being natural/unnatural, but his specific argument is just identifying why homosexuality could be viewed as natural, not right/wrong/sinful/moral.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Wanna "splain that?
    Sure, because it happens in nature is not a valid explanation for why it happens in humans. We can only assume that certain behaviors are instances of homosexual activity based on observation, when in fact the behavior could be non sexual to that actor.

    As far as logical fallacies go, this should help.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But isn't it part of the OP as to whether the act is natural or not? How exactly do you prove something is natural or not without bringing nature into the discussion?

    Don't get me wrong, I understand that natural is a subjective term, but it doesn't seem right to say that something is a logical fallacy when it is referencing the very definition of the word natural.

    natural - definition of natural by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    If we were talking in a context of laws for/against homosexuality, sure I can see appeal to nature fallacy. In fact, this whole thread could be pretty much seen as an appeal to nature fallacy since it equates sin/right/wrong/morality arguments with something being natural/unnatural, but his specific argument is just identifying why homosexuality could be viewed as natural, not right/wrong/sinful/moral.
    Whatever, an appeal to nature is an appeal to nature. If you want to discuss if its natural for humans, you have to explore human homosexuality....not bonobo or giraffe.
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