View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    what that guy said.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So I have a conundrum with Christians like yourself. Do you believe yourself to be infallible?
    CriticalThought, christians hold that their bible is infallible as most religions do. This allows them to not be personally responsible for their positions; i.e. the bible told me to think that way or do that thing. Unless you can set your beliefs aside you can’t think critically.

    This is true even in say engineering. I’ve worked with engineers that have what I call religiously held ‘knowledge’ of a subject and implement a poor solution because of it. They will hold to that belief even when faced with a solution that verifies, proves, their belief to be incorrect.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i suppose there you would have to ask if you were defining our higher or fallen nature. plenty of things happen "naturally" that we consider to be morally unacceptable.
    Something happening in nature is not what makes it right or wrong. Only that it is natural. Many harmful things are natural. But we can't claim them to be unnatural. Only harmful. Or wrong. Or immoral. Not unnatural.


    truth. your right to swing your fists ends at my nose - not at your shoulder.
    I agree. But when you decide another can't marry, for example, you've hit their nose. When you legislate what others can do, without just cause, only your interpretation of what is acceptable, something that doesn't hit your nose or anyone elses, you cross the line. Where there is just cause, like in pedophilia for example, laws that restrict are justified. Where you have no just cause, it's none of your damn business.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Something happening in nature is not what makes it right or wrong. Only that it is natural. Many harmful things are natural. But we can't claim them to be unnatural. Only harmful. Or wrong. Or immoral. Not unnatural.
    if you wish.

    I agree. But when you decide another can't marry, for example, you've hit their nose.
    given that it is not their actions that are limited, but rather those of the county clerks, i would have to disagree. certainly i think you would heartily oppose any claims of the same "nose-bopping" with regards to other relationships that you do not wish to recognize as "marriage".

    When you legislate what others can do, without just cause, only your interpretation of what is acceptable, something that doesn't hit your nose or anyone elses, you cross the line
    this is absolutely incorrect due to the subjective nature of "just cause". for example, I say you have no just cause to vote against me having the ability to stock my house with rockets, launchers, and heavy-machines guns. you are limiting what I can do without just cause, only your interpretation of what is acceptable, and it doesn't hit your nose or anyone else's what I do in my own house.

    Where there is just cause, like in pedophilia for example, laws that restrict are justified. Where you have no just cause, it's none of your damn business.
    no one is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no one is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality.
    I think you'd find Alfons would argue that quite strenuously. Just a notion.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    fair enough. no one who is demonstratively sane is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fair enough. no one who is demonstratively sane is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality
    Fair point. I withdraw my comment.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fair enough. no one who is demonstratively sane is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality
    Oooooh, that would be a fun poll! I'm doing that one next!

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    lol! alright, we'll see where folks stand on that.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I believe that it is a sin according to the Bible. I also believe it's unnatural.
    It there a biblical sin list? I'll grant you the TC, if you want to call that the biblical sin list. That doesn't mention homosexuality. According to the bible sins are sins. Those of you into proof texting may even find a couple of passages that support that sins are sins. So where is homosexuality on the biblical sin list? What rank is it? If it is ranked how about showing us the ranking? We already know it isn't in the top ten.










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