View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I would like to ask those people how SSM will de-value marriage?
    Haven't you? I should keep it in a word file so i can copy and paste it.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    I don't value marriage because it's a silly tradition that in itself is "unnatural".

    If marriage were natural, there wouldn't be premarital or extramarital sex going on.
    I agree.

    Marriage demands that the male curb his natural drive to have sex with as many women as possible, and subordinate it to the female sexual pattern of monogamy and child-bearing. It's a great basis on which to build a civilized society, but yes, very unnatural - and sometimes very difficult - for men.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Haven't you? I should keep it in a word file so i can copy and paste it.
    I have, and I haven't gotten an answer that makes sense.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    We're all a bit too young to be talking about marriage, really.



    That's very interesting. Can't say I've witnessed anything to this effect, but then again I don't discuss issues of marriage or politics with a lot of other people either.
    Understood, but isn't that another way of saying, you don't know much about it? dont care much about it? so, **** yeah, SSM, whatever?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Understood, but isn't that another way of saying, you don't know much about it? dont care much about it? so, **** yeah, SSM, whatever?
    I understand the pursuit for equality and equal rights. Even if it's pursuing the right to be more miserable, as some put it.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I have, and I haven't gotten an answer that makes sense.
    You haven't gotten an answer that changes your mind.

    Neither have I, when I ask why do gays want to marry. What's the point?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I understand the pursuit for equality and equal rights. Even if it's pursuing the right to be more miserable, as some put it.
    Exactly!

    It's not about the value of marriage. It never has been.

    It's about equality.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    still seeking acceptance.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Exactly!

    It's not about the value of marriage. It never has been.

    It's about equality.
    That's the angle pro-SSM people are coming from. Many of the anti-SSM people do talk about the value of marriage.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Exactly!

    It's not about the value of marriage. It never has been.

    It's about equality.
    Some do, some don't. Personally, I don't think it has much value. But I know people who do, and support SSM. Including, weirdly enough, a few Catholics. But there's always been an interesting divide amongst Catholics that I don't quite understand despite having a Catholic extended family...

    But hey, if your idea of valuing marriage is to discriminate about who can get married, you don't have to marry a gay person! You could even get married to a straight person in a church that won't do gay marriages! Cool, huh.

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