View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Already done.
    No, you proved how it can be misrepresented as natural.

    The error has been shown to be yours, so your efforts will be fruitless.
    You're in denial.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, you proved how it can be misrepresented as natural.
    No, I proved how it was natural.

    You're in denial.
    Not at all. You'd prefer to define things based on your position rather than facts.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Can't. Lighting bolts..locusts....you'll have to take my word for it. Or show why it's "perfectly natural" despite having no benefit to the species.
    So only something that has direct benefit to the species is "natural"? By that definition, it would be "unnatural" and therefore illegal for a woman with a hysterectomy or a man with a vasectomy to have sexual relations with someone, because procreation cannot occur, therefore it has no benefit to the species. Surely you can see the complete lack of logic in such an argument.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So only something that has direct benefit to the species is "natural"? By that definition, it would be "unnatural" and therefore illegal for a woman with a hysterectomy or a man with a vasectomy to have sexual relations with someone, because procreation cannot occur, therefore it has no benefit to the species. Surely you can see the complete lack of logic in such an argument.
    mac makes up his own definitions to fit his agenda. He probably knows that they make no sense but won't admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, I proved how it was natural.
    No...you made it fit a definition...there are plenty of unnatural things we do that can fit it.

    Not at all. You'd prefer to define things based on your position rather than facts.
    nope.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So only something that has direct benefit to the species is "natural"? By that definition, it would be "unnatural" and therefore illegal for a woman with a hysterectomy or a man with a vasectomy to have sexual relations with someone, because procreation cannot occur, therefore it has no benefit to the species. Surely you can see the complete lack of logic in such an argument.
    You're putting words in my mouth. No where did I say homosexuality or ssm should be illegal because they are unnatural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    mac makes up his own definitions to fit his agenda. He probably knows that they make no sense but won't admit it.
    There's no need to be nasty, cc.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    RM - I agree with some of what you've said. What I'm trying to get at is why, in terms of logic, why the issue of natural vs. unnatural is even relevant to gay rights and legislation. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.
    SB... By your post- providing sources, evidence, or facts to possibily support opinons have no necessity and renders debate an exercise in futility.

    That is exactly the pattern that reigns dominate over controversial topics. There are those who insist on creating their on rules, which significantly departs from any hope of developing arguments. Without any of the aforementioned components, which are usually imperative in the course of debate, it's unlikely that the employment of logic is possible.

    Logic and reason usually reveal themselves through discourse that contains enough credible elements of information, which allows for functional conclusions or links to related facts, theories, and other possible streams of information that lays the path for consuming and processing arguments in a coherent manner.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So only something that has direct benefit to the species is "natural"? By that definition, it would be "unnatural" and therefore illegal for a woman with a hysterectomy or a man with a vasectomy to have sexual relations with someone, because procreation cannot occur, therefore it has no benefit to the species. Surely you can see the complete lack of logic in such an argument.
    A lot of things would be unnatural like left-handedness, freckles, colorblindness, etc. It's a nonsensical definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Alright...how? Can you please answer that question with a straight answer?
    Simple. Gay sex cannot procreate, and it is therefore unnatural.

    How many times do you plan on asking me the same question?
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