View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
  • Punish/restrict Christians for being against it

    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Devotion to God is philosophical. I guess that makes it unnatural as well.
    Still ignoring me, I see.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There's no logic behind either side. Like I said, as long as no-one is saying "it's perfectly natural" I'll hold my peace.
    And if your side doesn't come in and bring it up, you won't see me mention it.

    I don't like folks misrepresenting the evidence. For example, homosexuality has not been proven to be genetic.
    Good. And I support you doing that. I usually point that out, too.

    All that's been shown is that you disagree with it and that you care little for evolution.
    No, what's been shown is that homosexuality is natural based on the definitions and that evolution has zero to do with it.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    And if your side doesn't come in and bring it up, you won't see me mention it.
    Bring IT!

    Good. And I support you doing that. I usually point that out, too.
    Usually...sometimes you slip up.

    No, what's been shown is that homosexuality is natural based on the definitions and that evolution has zero to do with it.
    See, slippin. Homosexuality serves no purpose, no benefit to the species. It's not natural....and the definition of natural, from what ever dictionary you like, can be misrepresented to prove that a whole host of unnatural things....are natural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    All that's been shown is that you disagree with it and that you care little for evolution.
    Classic mistake on my part. Out of curiosity I had to read your last few posts.

    You don't even understand evolution. Your insistence on using the word "purpose" proves that you have no conception of evolution. You are a teleologist. Nothing more and nothing less. Evolution is a process and it has no purpose. Evolution is the adaptation of a species to their environment over several generations. Natural selection ensures that traits which help the species survive to reproduce within its environment will prosper whereas traits that do not help a species reproduce will disappear. As it so happens, sex in primates has evolved to serve a dual role. Not only does it lead to procreation it also acts as a social bonding agent that resolves conflict. You need proof? Just look at history. The most sexually repressed cultures are always the most violent and brutal. Homosexuality is a trait that increases the fitness of a tribe of primates by improving the tribe's social cohesiveness so that it can compete better than other tribes. That ability offsets the loss of offspring. This is a fact that is observable in those Bonobos that you like to ignore.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Classic mistake on my part. Out of curiosity I had to read your last few posts.
    Well, good. Maybe you'll learn something.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, good. Maybe you'll learn something.
    I have learned a lot from you. You have taught me that sexual repression rots the brain and corrodes a man's ability to use basic logic.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I have learned a lot from you. You have taught me that sexual repression rots the brain and corrodes a man's ability to use basic logic.
    Well.............. I'm sure you'll get better.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Bring IT!
    You know I will.

    Usually...sometimes you slip up.
    Ummm... no... I have my standard answer that I always use. Feel free to post where I have contradicted this.

    See, slippin. Homosexuality serves no purpose, no benefit to the species. It's not natural....and the definition of natural, from what ever dictionary you like, can be misrepresented to prove that a whole host of unnatural things....are natural.
    Unless you can link to the designer's website and prove the purpose of things, you position above is nothing but your own opinion.

    And you have completely failed to provide any definition of natural that supports your position... except the one you made up.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I have learned a lot from you. You have taught me that sexual repression rots the brain and corrodes a man's ability to use basic logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well.............. I'm sure you'll get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Unless you can link to the designer's website and prove the purpose of things, you position above is nothing but your own opinion.

    And you have completely failed to provide any definition of natural that supports your position... except the one you made up.
    Can't. Lighting bolts..locusts....you'll have to take my word for it. Or show why it's "perfectly natural" despite having no benefit to the species.
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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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