View Poll Results: Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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  • It's wrong and unnatural

    22 7.94%
  • It's not wrong, just unnatural

    16 5.78%
  • It's neither wrong nor unnatural

    107 38.63%
  • Don't know/care

    16 5.78%
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    12 4.33%
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Thread: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    As long as people are claiming it is....I'll argue it.

    There is no reasonable reason that homosexuality exists in humans. It's a fetish. That doesn't mean, in and of itself, anything though. We do plenty of unnatural things that are completely accepted.


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    So, does this mean that you will no longer be presenting the the natural/unnatural argument?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    As long as people are claiming it is....I'll argue it.
    Which side do YOU think is the side that brings this up most often. It ain't MY side... it's YOURS.

    There is no reasonable reason that homosexuality exists in humans. It's a fetish. That doesn't mean, in and of itself, anything though. We do plenty of unnatural things that are completely accepted.
    There you go again. Define unnatural.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Which side do YOU think is the side that brings this up most often. It ain't MY side... it's YOURS.
    It's my side...not me.


    There you go again. Define unnatural.
    There is no evidence to suggest we developed homosexuality to serve any real purpose.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There is no evidence to suggest we developed homosexuality to serve any real purpose.
    Other than, you know, that L word.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    Other than, you know, that L word.
    Love? Define that.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Love? Define that.
    You can't, that's the point.

    If you allow heterosexual marriage on the basis of love, why can't you allow homosexual marriage?

    Nobody can define it, and nobody can tell another person whether they are in love or not.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatSandeno View Post
    You can't, that's the point.

    If you allow heterosexual marriage on the basis of love, why can't you allow homosexual marriage?

    Nobody can define it, and nobody can tell another person whether they are in love or not.
    And no-one has to care.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There is no evidence to suggest we developed homosexuality to serve any real purpose.
    There's no evidence that heterosexuality serves a real purpose either. People could easily be born bisexual (not likely that we are born asexual, since most humans have some sex drive and without a sex drive at all, it would be hard to keep the species going).

    What purpose is served by heterosexual sex that isn't for the sole purpose of reproduction? Why are other parts of the body sexual arousal points, including the prostate when going through the anus? Why do people who are born infertile feel any sexual arousal? Why do women still want sex after menopause?

    Many of the answers that go with these questions could go for why sex other than intercourse, could serve a purpose or multiple purposes.

    And homosexuality alone could serve the purpose of buffering population growth and/or providing a suitable parental substitute in the absence of biological parents. Either of these things would help a species. Slowing the rate of population growth would be helpful to ensure resources are not depleted at a rate that would kill off the entire species to the point of extinction before the resources can replenish themselves. There are other things in place, but homosexuality could reasonably be one of those buffers. (Nature would not take into account human efforts to control or limit homosexuality through use of authority. Neither would nature take into account human ability to artificially procreate, without sex.)

    These are all just speculation, but so is your own belief that homosexuality serves no purpose in nature. I am showing you that it could. Plus, it is pure speculation to believe that humans were only "meant" to have sex for procreation. I don't believe that we would have the sex drives we have if this were true, especially since most individual women can only get pregnant for about a week out of each month, yet few women just want to have sex around ovulation time.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There's no evidence that heterosexuality serves a real purpose either.
    Dude, really?




    Homosexuality doesn't exist in great enough numbers in our species to do anything at all....much less anything beneficial.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And no-one has to care.
    So why do you?

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