I can agree with that, but I would still like mac to tell me where I can find a reliable definition of natural since it isn't in dictionary. It's too bad he's ignoring my easy questions.
You haven't figure it out yet? mac doesn't have a definition that he can use. His definition is the natural moral law one, but he realizes it is weak. He is throwing out ideas hoping one will stick and form the basis that he can argue for a particular view, but that is it. He has completely and utterly failed at this debate and the best he can do is drag it on and pretend like he knows what he is talking about.