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Thread: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    I believe there are some people who need to be put down, just like you would a rabid dog. Humans are animals, and while we are more advanced than the other species on the planet, we are constantly reminded of how primitive we can be. Rape, cold blooded murder, sexual abuse of a child; these are just some of the offenses I would not have a problem using capital punishment for.

    The caveat to this is I would require that the person we are going to put down be proven guilty by a unanimous jury of these most heinous crimes. There cannot be any doubt, or any circumstantial evidence used to convict.
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Quote Originally Posted by ADG View Post
    I believe there are some people who need to be put down, just like you would a rabid dog. Humans are animals, and while we are more advanced than the other species on the planet, we are constantly reminded of how primitive we can be. Rape, cold blooded murder, sexual abuse of a child; these are just some of the offenses I would not have a problem using capital punishment for.

    The caveat to this is I would require that the person we are going to put down be proven guilty by a unanimous jury of these most heinous crimes. There cannot be any doubt, or any circumstantial evidence used to convict.
    Over 200 men have been exonerated after having been proven guilty by a unanimous jury.

    Quite often, circumstantial evidence is more conclusive than witnesses are.
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    In theory, yes, under our present system no. Our present system finds innocent people guilty too easily. That is unacceptable. There always will be human error in judgment. I would rather see a guilty person go free, than an innocent person punished. If we punish the innocent, we become a criminal ourselves and deserving of at least a manslaughter charge. There is always street justice when there is private knowledge that cannot pass the rigorous test a judicial system uses in order to not become criminals themselves. What else could you expect from a court? This will lift some tax burden, and street justice tends to be a bit more frugal for the guilty. I like the idea of six years for murder too. If a person is innocent, they should still have some of their life left when they get out. If they are guilty, it's enough to teach a lesson and get things turned around.

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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    If you bought a house from somebody and went to the closing and they gave you the keys and you drove to your new digs and entered and found the toilet was filled to overflowing with waste and was stinking up the house... what would you do?

    How about flushing the damn toilet.

    Why is it that when society recognizes six feet of stacked waste among us, we do not flush the toilet? In some states we spend 35, 40K or more to put a person in a maximum security prison. And we are cutting back on cops, firemen and teachers at the same time.

    Everyone accused of a capital crime should get a lawyer and a damn good one. They should have a decent budget for investigation, research and expert witnesses. They should get the fairest and most complete trial in the history of the world. They should have a specialized appeals attorney to handle their appeal. And if they are convicted and if the jury decides on the death penalty and if their appeal fails when it is heard and all the issues raised before the court, fry their sorry ass. Flush the toilet for heavens sake.
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you bought a house from somebody and went to the closing and they gave you the keys and you drove to your new digs and entered and found the toilet was filled to overflowing with waste and was stinking up the house... what would you do?

    How about flushing the damn toilet.

    Why is it that when society recognizes six feet of stacked waste among us, we do not flush the toilet? In some states we spend 35, 40K or more to put a person in a maximum security prison. And we are cutting back on cops, firemen and teachers at the same time.

    Everyone accused of a capital crime should get a lawyer and a damn good one. They should have a decent budget for investigation, research and expert witnesses. They should get the fairest and most complete trial in the history of the world. They should have a specialized appeals attorney to handle their appeal. And if they are convicted and if the jury decides on the death penalty and if their appeal fails when it is heard and all the issues raised before the court, fry their sorry ass. Flush the toilet for heavens sake.
    Todays liberals don't make sense....pro-death penalty and anti-Isreal? I mean come on...don't you guys know what you're supposed to stand for?
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Todays liberals don't make sense....pro-death penalty and anti-Isreal? I mean come on...don't you guys know what you're supposed to stand for?
    I have no idea to what you refer. The issues are so disparate that I'm bemused as to what you are trying to link together. Where does advocacy for the death penalty and opposition to Israel intersect? Who are you suggesting is cheerleading for both?
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Todays liberals don't make sense....pro-death penalty and anti-Isreal? I mean come on...don't you guys know what you're supposed to stand for?
    Anti Israel!!?!?!?!?!?!?

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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Killing someone to prove that killing someone is wrong.

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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Over 200 men have been exonerated after having been proven guilty by a unanimous jury.

    Quite often, circumstantial evidence is more conclusive than witnesses are.
    My point is that with 200 men being exonerated, the death penalty could only be imposed if there was absolutely no doubt of guilt. I guess what I am saying is that while I do not have a moral problem with euthanizing a person who is proven to be a sub-human, the burden of proof should be so high as to restrict the punishment for only a fraction of cases that currently call for it.
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    Re: The Latest Lynchings Yes/No

    In general, I favor having a death penalty. However, I think it is far overused. It should be the ultimate penalty for the ultimate criminals.

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