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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..
    Something like that yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure.
    No one worships the POTUS. Sure some might hinge on every word they say. But they don't worship him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator. Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.
    America is not ruled by one person. It is ruled by a three tier system. Executive, Judicial, Legislative. The POTUS is part of the executive which is there to talk to other nations and enforce our laws. That is it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics. Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.
    Not sure what you're talking about here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.
    The American Flag is not an idol. It is a symbol. A symbol that in this country means freedom.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Asking as a serious question, do any Christians here count the crucifix as idolatry?
    Come on how can the crucifix not be idolatry?

    Most Christians worship Jesus as God, which is also against the ten commandments. But then again, the Christians also modified those..
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you look up the correct quote before initiating a thread to bash America?
    I didnt want to.. Point should be clear anyways.

    Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans. Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that. There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.. That in my opinion is contradictory.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Come on how can the crucifix not be idolatry?
    That's why I was asking it.
    Most Christians worship Jesus as God, which is also against the ten commandments. But then again, the Christians also modified those..
    In Christian theology Jesus is God, so they have a loop-hole there.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans.
    I seem to recall a few people idolizing a charming German fellow a few decades ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra
    Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that.
    Meh, it pretty much cuts across cultural boundaries. Some Americans idolize the US flag, just like some Europeans idolize themselves and their sense of superiority. Case in point: you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra
    There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.
    Well if you'd bothered to consult Wikipedia about the most basic principles of US government, you'd see that we don't have a single leader. We have two legislative houses which are elected by the people, we have a president and vice-president which are elected by the people, we have an independent judiciary which is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, and we have various high-ranking cabinet positions which are appointed/fired by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I seem to recall a few people idolizing a charming German fellow a few decades ago.
    You mean the guy with the moustache?

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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I seem to recall a few people idolizing a charming German fellow a few decades ago.
    Yes, just a very few decades ago. And Germany in particular and Europe ofcourse is so much the same now as it was 65-75 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well if you'd bothered to consult Wikipedia about the most basic principles of US government, you'd see that we don't have a single leader. We have two legislative houses which are elected by the people, we have a president and vice-president which are elected by the people, we have an independent judiciary which is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, and we have various high-ranking cabinet positions which are appointed/fired by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
    You can make it as technical as you want, but we all know what I mean in practise.

    You my man seem to know much about the technical aspects about the US political system, the wikipedia stuff, and little about the actual system, the implications and how it has turned out, and what it is becoming. All the things that matters.

    I am sure the Germans used the same excuses back in 1940. They were also still technically a democratic society with noble purposes and a well functioning justice system.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I didnt want to.. Point should be clear anyways.

    Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans. Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that. There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.. That in my opinion is contradictory.
    Of course you're different, you only have cathedrals and statues ever five feet or so. No idolatry going on over there.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    That's why I was asking it.


    In Christian theology Jesus is God, so they have a loop-hole there.
    What loophole? Look, you can take a cross as an idol in which you are worshipping the cross, or you can look at it as a representation of what you are really worshipping (God). God looks into a man's heart to see which he's worshipping.
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    Re: Do America "take idols"?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What loophole? Look, you can take a cross as an idol in which you are worshipping the cross, or you can look at it as a representation of what you are really worshipping (God). God looks into a man's heart to see which he's worshipping.
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