View Poll Results: Rate the level of interference Democracy has in Americans ability to solve problems:

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    12 29.27%
  • two

    2 4.88%
  • three

    2 4.88%
  • four

    2 4.88%
  • five

    2 4.88%
  • six

    2 4.88%
  • seven

    3 7.32%
  • eight

    1 2.44%
  • nine

    1 2.44%
  • ten (Total Interference)

    14 34.15%
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Thread: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Our society hasn't moved past killing animals to eat them. You know the meat section at the grocery store is filled with dead animal parts, right? They didn't die from natural causes.
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So is killing another animal to eat them. Our society has evolved beyond that for the most part. Do you really support a lawless society as found in nature with other animals?
    We no longer kill other animals to eat them? Really? When did that happen?

    Have the people who run the feedlot heard about this?
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    Our society hasn't moved past killing animals to eat them. You know the meat section at the grocery store is filled with dead animal parts, right? They didn't die from natural causes.
    Of course, I meant we don't kill other humans for food. We have laws against that sort of thing.

    And you didn't answer my question. Are you opposed to the societal laws that separate us from other animals?
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    There are no laws that separate us from animals. There's only a hierarchical system. Enforced by power. It's still just might makes right. I don't have a problem with it.
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    There are no laws that separate us from animals. There's only a hierarchical system. Enforced by power. It's still just might makes right. I don't have a problem with it.
    How is it "might makes right" when the minority is protected by Constitutional guarantees and when we get to vote on who gets to make those laws?

    It might have been might makes right at one time, but we have evolved past that point, at least in the Western democracies.
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Because that minority is protected by someone. And that would be the apparatus of the state. Which has the power.
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    Because that minority is protected by someone. And that would be the apparatus of the state. Which has the power.
    In the western democracies, it only has the power that the people are willing to give it, and what is not prohibited by the Constitutions of those democracies.
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanten Janubi View Post
    There are no laws that separate us from animals. There's only a hierarchical system. Enforced by power. It's still just might makes right. I don't have a problem with it.
    Please link me to your documentation that animals have been known to meet on a regular basis and negotiate the rules they will govern themselves by. Thanks!
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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    What is Democracy?

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    Re: Is Democracy Blocking America's Ability To Solve It's Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    In the western democracies, it only has the power that the people are willing to give it, and what is not prohibited by the Constitutions of those democracies.
    To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions does the Constitution have? Can the Constitution tell them what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please link me to your documentation that animals have been known to meet on a regular basis and negotiate the rules they will govern themselves by. Thanks!
    Wait, you think there are animals that don't have hierarchies? Do you know what a pack is?
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