Daddy, Papa and Me: do you agree with?

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?
Moreover, it is very difficult to believe that children of such "families" will growing up as straight kids.Or maybe I am wrong, maybe only such families will exist in liberal politically correct future and all conservative families will be prohibited as "too hateful" per law.

Also, what do you think about, maybe somebody can additional explain how daddies and pappies will produce children, also, please vote and correct me, if I am wrong.

BTW what is about the acceptance of such children in schools or among those from straight families?

I will put it this way. I don't agree with it personally but two parents there all the time can be and is better than just one and that is what most children including me and now my five month daughter deals with as I try to work things out with her mother. Of course I am there as much as I can be but it is always better to have both parents as it is better and easier on everyone.

Alfons said:

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?

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Sure. As long as the child is in a loving home with parents who will nurture and support him or her, I fail to see the problem. I mean, I have two dads (a step dad and a real dad) and some would argue I came out ok.

Moreover, it is very difficult to believe that children of such "families" will growing up as straight kids.Or maybe I am wrong, maybe only such families will exist in liberal politically correct future and all conservative families will be prohibited as "too hateful" per law.

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I don't see why it matters if the kid grows up straight or gay, as long as they grow up happy and loved. Though, there is a lot of science pointing to homosexuality being rooted in biological causes like hormone levels in the mother, rather than learned behavior. And straight families have homosexual kids, so I don't see why it can't go both ways. I do have to say though, your conspiracy theory here is just ridiculous.

Also, what do you think about, maybe somebody can additional explain how daddies and pappies will produce children, also, please vote and correct me, if I am wrong.

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Well when a daddy and a pappy love each other VERY much, they go to a magical place called an adoption agency... Jokes aside, it isn't unheard of for someone to have been repressing their sexuality and to only come out of the closet in middle age, after having had a failed hetero marriage (it's happened to a few people I know.) Though, judging by the cover of the book, I suspect the child was adopted.

BTW what is about the acceptance of such children in schools or among those from straight families?

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Kids are going to find something to tease you about. It might be how you talk, it might be your size, it might be that you have two dads. But i don't see why people should change what they do because of teasing and prejudice.

Alfons said:

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?

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They are families. Period. What else are they?

Moreover, it is very difficult to believe that children of such "families" will growing up as straight kids.

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I, and every other gay person I know, was raised by a heterosexual couple one of whom was quite anti-gay, but I came out gay. Why would the kids of gay parents be more likely to mirror their parents' sexual orientation than I was? Do you think gay parents are taught fiendish indoctrination skills?

BTW what is about the acceptance of such children in schools or among those from straight families?

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It varies from school to school. Some schools these days have very good policies in place to prevent bullying. Acceptance you can't legislate for, but there are many issues of personal circumstance that other kids can pick on, and they always will. That's life.

There seems to be few cases where two guys adopt a child, I hear more about two women adopting or doing artificial insemination and one carries the child. What I have read from interiews with adult children who grew up in those families is very positive. They felt loved, they enjoyed a stable family, and they love both parents. The kids don't end up as gay kids. I go by results and what the kid says based on his/her actual experience. It works.

My Two Dads was easily one of the worst TV shows in the 80s.

finebead said:

There seems to be few cases where two guys adopt a child, I hear more about two women adopting or doing artificial insemination and one carries the child. What I have read from interiews with adult children who grew up in those families is very positive. They felt loved, they enjoyed a stable family, and they love both parents. The kids don't end up as gay kids. I go by results and what the kid says based on his/her actual experience. It works.

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I have linked to the stats a few times, too busy right now to dig them up again, but IIRC, about 1/3 of gay male couples do adopt or would like to adopt.

Edit: OK, I did look up the source: http://www3.law.ucla.edu/williamsinstitute/publications/FinalAdoptionReport.pdf

• More than one in three lesbians have given birth and one in six gay men have fathered or adopted a child.
• More than half of gay men and 41 percent of lesbians want to have a child.
• An estimated two million GLB people are interested in adopting.

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Alfons said:

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?
Moreover, it is very difficult to believe that children of such "families" will growing up as straight kids.Or maybe I am wrong, maybe only such families will exist in liberal politically correct future and all conservative families will be prohibited as "too hateful" per law.

Also, what do you think about, maybe somebody can additional explain how daddies and pappies will produce children, also, please vote and correct me, if I am wrong.

BTW what is about the acceptance of such children in schools or among those from straight families?

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Well - if a gay child can be raised by two straight parents then why can't two gay parents raise a straight child? It's not an issue of childhood exposure - it's not as if they were walking on the beech one day and tripped and suddenly fell down with gay.

Aunt Spiker said:

Well - if a gay child can be raised by two straight parents then why can't two gay parents raise a straight child? It's not an issue of childhood exposure - it's not as if they were walking on the beech one day and tripped and suddenly fell down with gay.

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You remember all those cooties that kids were afraid of? Well now you know why!

Studies have shown that a children raised by gay parents are not any more likely to be gay themselves than children raised by straight parents. As well, they show no abnormalities or ill-effects from the experience.

Children with Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Parents | American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry

I notice that Alfons has beaten a hasty retreat from his troll thread.

megaprogman said:

You remember all those cooties that kids were afraid of? Well now you know why!

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All the guys did that about girls - lol - things change.

Family ain't about making babies, it's about raising babies. Sadly, the ability to do one doesn't have very much to do with the ability to do the other.

Alfons said:

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?

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Absolutely. I know of several families with gay/lesbian parents. Many of the children are adoptees who were languishing in foster care for years because they were special needs or mixed race. I see no reason why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to form families and raise children, especially children that the nice Christian families have rejected for being imperfect.

P.s. Why haven't you been raptured yet?

Alfons said:

Is it fine if a child instead of mom and dad has two dads while a big lot of politically correct secular humanists want to sell us such communities as a full normal "modern" families?
Moreover, it is very difficult to believe that children of such "families" will growing up as straight kids.Or maybe I am wrong, maybe only such families will exist in liberal politically correct future and all conservative families will be prohibited as "too hateful" per law.

Also, what do you think about, maybe somebody can additional explain how daddies and pappies will produce children, also, please vote and correct me, if I am wrong.

BTW what is about the acceptance of such children in schools or among those from straight families?

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It's far from being widely accepted, but I have absolutely no problem with gay men adopting children into their families. A stable family is better than being in the foster care system. And infinitely better than being an orphan in a third world country where many of these adopted children come from.

I sold a home to a gay couple who had two adopted children from Guatamala. Both parents are fluent in Spanish and their boys are bilingual, well-adjusted young men. They moved into a North Shore suburb of Chicago, having moved from the city. They were determined their boys would have a great education and, instead of private school in the city, they opted to move to a good school district in the suburbs. One of them was very (I mean very!) concerned that neighbors wouldn't accept them. When they found a home they wanted to buy, I told them to take their two boys down the street, knock on some doors and see what kind of reception they got from the neighbors when they introduced themselves and said they were thinking of buying a home down the street. They were really nervous. I went with them to the first house, where they got a warm welcome, tidbits about the neighborhood and the offer of some lemonade. I sent them on down the block and went back to the vacant house to wait. They got back almost two hours later. OMG!!! Warm welcomes, a block party invitation for the next weekend, met neighbors' kids. Honestly, like Michelle Obama, I can say I've never been prouder of my fellow Americans. (Ha!)

They've lived there for about seven years now. All the kids' bikes are constantly in their driveway; they socialize with all the neighbors and have been accepted (I'd almost say) faster and better than a heterosexual couple. It's been amazing. Their kids excel in school and any parent would be proud to call them his. A reeeeeeal success story as far as I'm concerned.

I'll always judge the topic by this success. Are those boys better off than if they'd stayed as orphans in Guatemala? What do you think?

Aunt Spiker said:

Well - if a gay child can be raised by two straight parents then why can't two gay parents raise a straight child? .

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Because child will automatically became a gay too.

JohnWOlin said:

I will put it this way. I don't agree with it personally but two parents there all the time can be and is better

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LOL,

a gay couple is better, are you joking?

Nice parents, aren't they?

Unless, Alfons, you come up with proof that a child turns gay when his father leaves him with his mum and that being gay is something that doesn't happen by chance (and thus shouldnt occur in "normal" families) then there can be no claims that it damages a child mentally and therefore renders any reasoning to suggest same sex households are "immoral" as wrong.

Alfons said:

Because child will automatically became a gay too.

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I'm just guessing you don't know many gay people, do you? Do you think that you might catch homosexuality if you stand too close?

Catz Part Deux said:

Absolutely. I know of several families with gay/lesbian parents. Many of the children are adoptees who were languishing in foster care for years because they were special needs or mixed race. I see no reason why gays and lesbians shouldn't be allowed to form families and raise children, especially children that the nice Christian families have rejected for being imperfect.

P.s. Why haven't you been raptured yet?

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HaHaHa,

dear Catz, you know, I like you!

No chance against your arguments!

Alfons said:

Because child will automatically became a gay too.

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My brother was raised by lesbians, he's straight.

Alfons said:

Because child will automatically became a gay too.

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did you really just write that? :2rofll:

liblady said:

did you really just write that? :2rofll:

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It's like his playing "how many statements can we say that sound as stupid as humanly possible"? Saying things for the sake of saying things. Microwave gays who would have thought?

liblady said:

did you really just write that? :2rofll:

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Enjoy the reading!

Dangers of Same-Sex Couples Adopting Children

Alfons said:

HaHaHa,

dear Catz, you know, I like you!

No chance against your arguments!

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Awww, too sweet.