View Poll Results: Would you have the hypothetical life extending treatment?

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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    our birthrate is already below replacement levels - we only really stay at about even keel because we import so many. a significant enough percentage of the population get's this treatment, we will become Greece and Italy - both of whom are pretty much at this point doomed.
    Not true. Warning, this involves math, but.

    If every one had the treatment, and using pure random distribution, 1/4 of all couples could have kids(a=fertile, b=infertile, 4 combinations aa, ab, ba, bb, with only aa being able to have kids). However, the distribution would be far from random. At a 250 % lifespan, and a period of time of being able to have children being similarly elongated, and probably at least 1/3 of all couples able to have children, population would probably actually increase at a higher rate.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread is proof again that no matter how carefully you word the question, some one will still find the loophole. Please try and play along with the premise: treatment = 50 % chance no kids.
    Then the premise is flawed. For the most part, people like to have children. Most would be trying to figure out how to have the treatment and still have kids. I certainly would, and having sperm extracted and frozen before I took the treatment would be a good way to do that.

    Assuming that somehow there was absolutely no way to avoid the 50% chance of not having children, I'm not sure what I'd do. The idea of living for 180 years is attractive, but I really want kids.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    By slowing down ageing you could save enough to retire while you're still 'young'.
    I think if people lived that long the whole concept of retirement might change significantly. I certainly wouldn't want to wait a century to retire (most people work around 40 years or so now, *2.5 is a century). Instead, I think you'd have people working for 30-40 years like they do now and saving up enough money to 'retire' for 5-10 years during the prime of their lives, then going back to work some more.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not true. Warning, this involves math, but.

    If every one had the treatment, and using pure random distribution, 1/4 of all couples could have kids(a=fertile, b=infertile, 4 combinations aa, ab, ba, bb, with only aa being able to have kids). However, the distribution would be far from random. At a 250 % lifespan, and a period of time of being able to have children being similarly elongated, and probably at least 1/3 of all couples able to have children, population would probably actually increase at a higher rate.
    I also suspect that enabling others to have kids (i.e. donating sperm/eggs and surrogate mothers) would become a much bigger business than it is now. After all, most people won't simply stop wanting children even if they're unable to biologically have their own, and so people would just adopt the kids of others.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Your body might live to be 180+, but would your soul? Mine feels comfortable with the idea it's only got a two or three more decades to last out.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Does it presume that funds and abilities will make us able to see and do it all?
    If you live that long, even a minimal monthly investment will make you wealthy after 40 to 50 years.

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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    I suppose one could wait until they have had the children then want and then begin the treatments. It might mean you don't get to 182 years, but you can still have some good quality years...

    Though, as a runner, I have to note that it would screw up the notion of age groups in racing. As someone who just turned 40 and running as an elite is becoming increasingly untenable for me, I have to count on age group competition now...
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If you live that long, even a minimal monthly investment will make you wealthy after 40 to 50 years.
    Yep, so that by the wonders of inflation anybody who didn't take the drug would end up dirt poor
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    Well this did not turn out quite how I expected it. That's fine though.
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    Re: Hypothetical Question, No Right Answers

    I think I understand the point of this thread. It was in the thread title. Being a hypothetical situation where one has to choose a long life but as a result of that choice, their chances of being able to have their own offspring decreases. So would I take that chance even with no other recourse. Absolutely, 100% no. Having my own biological children is very important to me personally. While I support adoption, and under certain circumstances would adopt, I prefer to have my own. Although pregnancy is possibly dangerous and is a huge inconvenience, it's an amazing experience to have life growing inside. To feel the baby move, and know that it's apart of me. That long after I die, apart of me will continue to exist. It's the very reason all of us are here. Biological imperative is simply too strong in me to risk my fertility. In fact, although I have considered permanent sterilization, and it would likely benefit me financially as well as many other aspects, I can't imagine actually going through with it. I guess some people just have less of that biological imperative than I have.

    That being said, if possible I would use the preservation methods that are currently available before the procedure.
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