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Is Big Socialist Strauss-Cahn guilty or not?

Is Big Socialist Strauss-Cahn guilty or not?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • No

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • I dunno

    Votes: 17 65.4%

  • Total voters
    26
If his history is accurate, he has done this before spontaneously and often, always without having to answer for it. Lawyers and others are cofessing that they have counseled his prior "victims" not to file charges because he had the power to ruin them. So yes, men of privelege raised in an environment where they are expected to partake whenever and whomever they please can honestly believe that they are invulnerable. The fact that the victim has been named and smeared in the European press lends credence to stories that his previous unconsentual activities were hushed up because of that very power.

We are talking about two immoral French horn dogs, in my opinion, fighting it out for the ultimate power trip. Do I put it past DSK to have emerged nude from the shower, seen a piece of ass and decided to take it then and there? No, I do not. Do I put it past Sarkosky to buy a demure, devout Muslim maid to trap his political rival? No, I do not.

We'll just have to wait for the trial. One thing is certain. DSK's lawyers will do everything in their power to destroy that poor maid... unless they are able to buy her off beforehand.

One good thing: These shenanigans are being engaged in by French pols, not Americans for a change. Now, we can sit back, gloat, and feel superior, until, that is, our own politicians get caught doing the same sorts of things.
 
Just because the jury must be impartial doesn't mean ordinary people must be. The guy is guilty as sin.
 
Damn, these get better everyday! Looking forward to your next ridiculous thread! Make my day every time!
 
Another rigged poll - shame !
No vote.
It matters not wheather he is a bleeding heart or a heartless man.
He is a "man", with all the short-comings.
 
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What is more telling is the knee-jerk reaction in his defense by many in the Continent...

What is amusing is how many of these misogynistic knuckle draggers fancy themselves to be liberals.
 
Who lives in a block for HIV sufferers with her child. Right.

Which has been vigorously denied by the woman's lawyer and the organization that owns the property itself. It's just the beginning of a smear campaign against the woman that will continue until the trial is over... and probably beyond.
 
I don't know all that many who assume him to be guilty, but there certainly seems enough there for a trial...

Absolutely. I just wonder whether such a trial will uncover everything that is behind this episode. As for people not rushing to judge him guilty, have you been reading this thread? DiAnna's got him down as a randy, horn-dog, Alfons and Chappy have already got him behind bars and 5 people voted him guilty in the poll. Hands up, how many people knew anything about him other than that he was head of the IMF, before any of this happened?
 
I just wonder whether such a trial will uncover everything that is behind this episode.

You wanna uncover the episode?

Live by the sword, die by the sword. C'est la vie.
 
You wanna uncover the episode?

Live by the sword, die by the sword. C'est la vie.

I've no idea what that means. Are you saying DSK has a record of political dirty tricks campaigns? Any evidence for that?
 
Absolutely. I just wonder whether such a trial will uncover everything that is behind this episode. As for people not rushing to judge him guilty, have you been reading this thread? DiAnna's got him down as a randy, horn-dog, Alfons and Chappy have already got him behind bars and 5 people voted him guilty in the poll. Hands up, how many people knew anything about him other than that he was head of the IMF, before any of this happened?

5 out of 25 who voted in an unscientific poll hardly is evidence that people are rushing to hang the guy.

Actually, I did know who he was, but perhaps as an American of French descent who does follow what happened back in the motherland, I am perhaps a bit of an exception. I have been reading the French language press about this and he certainly does have a history of issues with women, which certainly does not look good for him and thus is very understandable that people believe him to be guilty. I also believe there is a high probability that he is guilty, but I believe in the court system and that he has a right to his day in court, so I will wait until that occurs. I am VERY disappointed, but not at all surprised, at the smear campaign against the accuser that has already begun...
 
I have been reading the French language press about this and he certainly does have a history of issues with women, which certainly does not look good for him and thus is very understandable that people believe him to be guilty.

There's a fairly big difference between being a ladies man and being a rapist. Being a bit of a lothario is practically a requirement to be French president. Every single one for the past 40 years has been a skirt-chaser. The fact that he has this reputation wouldn't be an issue in a French court, but will obviously play a major role in a US court where that kind of thing is judged by different standards.

I'm not willing to state an opinion on his guilt one way or the other. I don't have the facts. There is something a little whiffy about the timing of this however, just a month or two before the Presidential race gets under way.
 
There's a fairly big difference between being a ladies man and being a rapist. Being a bit of a lothario is practically a requirement to be French president. Every single one for the past 40 years has been a skirt-chaser. The fact that he has this reputation wouldn't be an issue in a French court, but will obviously play a major role in a US court where that kind of thing is judged by different standards.

I'm not willing to state an opinion on his guilt one way or the other. I don't have the facts. There is something a little whiffy about the timing of this however, just a month or two before the Presidential race gets under way.


The past accusations seem to involve rape, not simply being a randy old codger
 
The past accusations seem to involve rape, not simply being a randy old codger

No one has accused him of rape. This case isn't about rape, but sexual assault and attempted rape; serious, but not as serious as rape. In the previous 2 cases, neither of the 'victims' sought to press charges and could be considered over-enthusiastic seduction. So, that is what French public opinion is getting aerated about, treating him as if he were guilty, and guilty of a more serious offence than that with which he has been charged.
 
What I read about those incidents were that they were similar in nature to the attack on the maid. And that they were not reported due to fears of possible repercussions and political interests
 
He's innocent until proven guilty. Based on his actions thus far I think he may be guilty, but we can't know until a verdict is pronounced.
 
What I read about those incidents were that they were similar in nature to the attack on the maid. And that they were not reported due to fears of possible repercussions and political interests

Only the 'victims' can explain why they didn't file complaints. If the offences were serious, they had a duty to other potential victims to do so. The fact that they didn't says something.

You seem to have avoided conceding that he hasn't been charged with rape. Do you accept that he isn't charged with rape?
 
Only the 'victims' can explain why they didn't file complaints. If the offences were serious, they had a duty to other potential victims to do so.

Well, according to what I read there were numerous reasons. One the mother talked the victim out of it, because of political interests, and others had concern about the repercussions, possibly having their name dragged through the media


The fact that they didn't says something.

what is that?



You seem to have avoided conceding that he hasn't been charged with rape. Do you accept that he isn't charged with rape?

Yes, how horrible for me to besmirch his character when it's only an accusation of him forcing someone to suck his dick
 
Well, according to what I read there were numerous reasons. One the mother talked the victim out of it, because of political interests, and others had concern about the repercussions, possibly having their name dragged through the media
These were not 'powerless' room maids, but media insiders, who knew what they were dealing with and decided their own positions.

what is that?

I said, "The fact that they didn't say something says a lot". I have no idea why what I said didn't appear verbatim. I'm quite fastidious about checking my posts.

Yes, how horrible for me to besmirch his character when it's only an accusation of him forcing someone to suck his dick

Well, I certainly haven't played down the seriousness of the charges against him (please refer to all my previous posts), but I merely drew attention to the difference between the charges of assault and attempted rape and those of actual rape. In most jurisdictions they are quite distinct accusations.
 
I was the fly on the wall in that bedroom.
 
Absolutely. I just wonder whether such a trial will uncover everything that is behind this episode. As for people not rushing to judge him guilty, have you been reading this thread? DiAnna's got him down as a randy, horn-dog, Alfons and Chappy have already got him behind bars and 5 people voted him guilty in the poll. Hands up, how many people knew anything about him other than that he was head of the IMF, before any of this happened?

He IS a randy horn-dog. So is Sarkosky, which is why I referred to them both as "Two randy French horn dogs..." Cripes, have you read their history as described even in the European newspapers? Their reputations as first-class skirt chasers is legendary. Besides, in that post I said I wouldn't put it past S-K to have done it, and I wouldn't put it past Sarkosky to have framed the guy. I voted "I dunno."

Read my posts more thoroughly, friend. ;)
 
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He IS a randy horn-dog. So is Sarkosky, which is why I referred to them both as "Two randy French horn dogs..." Cripes, have you read their history as described even in the European newspapers? Their reputations as first-class skirt chasers is legendary. Besides, in that post I said I wouldn't put it past S-K to have done it, and I wouldn't put it past Sarkosky to have framed the guy. I voted "I dunno."

Read my posts more thoroughly, friend. ;)

Ah, okay. I apologise DiAnna.

My point was more that being a randy horn-dog does not automatically make you more likely to commit attempted rape. He may be guilty or innocent, but being a skirt-chaser, obnoxious though such activity can be, is not evidence of anything.
 
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