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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well I agree with that sentiment 100%

    but two unmarried childless women don't have the anchors to the future that I would like among Supreme Court Justices.
    Why are you so concerned about the justices in particular?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Why are you so concerned about the justices in particular?
    Life time appointments who can affect social change on a scale larger than any other branch of government maybe?

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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Well give that man a peace prize.......



    Well clearly you have proved Obama to be a "Moderate" and a "Centrist"............who crosses the aisle 4% of the time.
    Well clearly I never claimed that. I don't make claims I can't back up.
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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It always amazes me when liberals say that Obama has disappointed them. We all knew that despite the right-wings attempts to paint him as a liberal, Obama is a total moderate. His senate record should have given everyone a clue. The reality is, while we all had hopes that perhaps he would govern a little more to the left, we should have known that in todays America, it is unlikely we are going to have a true liberal in the whitehouse.
    I'd agree with you if he hadn't campaigned on a platform for change. What fundamental changes has he really effected?
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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Life time appointments who can affect social change on a scale larger than any other branch of government maybe?
    IMO social activism on the part of the court does little to affect people's personal lives. Personally, if I were a conservative I'd be much more worried about the economic decisions of the executive and legislative.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Why are you so concerned about the justices in particular?
    because they can do stuff that lasts for ages

    for example-ignoring130 years of precedent and allowing the unconstitutional new deal to remain in place



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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    What are you getting so mad about?

    .......its not like 98% of white people voted for McCain's white skin........that would clearly be !!!!RACISM!!!!

    Now lets get back to the topic......are you going to vote for Obama?

    .......and are you currently under the influence of marijObama or Hopium?
    Did you know that blacks voted for Kerry by over 90 %. Did you know they voted for Gore by similar amounts? Clinton over 80 % both elections. So why is it suddenly race when they do the same thing for Obama? Do you honestly think the percentage would have been different if Clinton had won the nomination? That whole 98 % thing has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.

    Good job playing the race card though.
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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'd agree with you if he hadn't campaigned on a platform for change. What fundamental changes has he really effected?
    Other than significant health care reform?
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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    because they can do stuff that lasts for ages

    for example-ignoring130 years of precedent and allowing the unconstitutional new deal to remain in place
    Ah okay I see where you're coming from, even if I don't entirely agree.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Will You Vote for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you know that blacks voted for Kerry by over 90 %. Did you know they voted for Gore by similar amounts? Clinton over 80 % both elections. So why is it suddenly race when they do the same thing for Obama? Do you honestly think the percentage would have been different if Clinton had won the nomination? That whole 98 % thing has been thoroughly debunked numerous times.

    Good job playing the race card though.
    the difference is not the percentage but the actual turnout



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