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    Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    There was a discussion about assault and rape and the use of deadly force and a poster stated something along the lines of:

    "Thats ridiculous. You wouldnt get away with that in a court of law and if you did, it be wrong and you shouldn't be able to. Rape alone does not cause grave bodily harm its just minor bruising and tearing. Injuries like those will heal completely within a few days. Only if you are being attacked with a deadly weapon or in the middle of be strangled to death can you use deadly force otherwise it is completely illegal and completely immoral"

    also then compared it to a bar fight and how he would be able to just "full the guy full of lead"

    Now I know this is just opinion and not matter what happens the law has to do its job, I could shoot a guy standing over me with an axe and I still have to face the law so im not asking that question. Nobody is above the law but what I want to know is if you are on a jury and a women was being beat and raped and managed to pull a gun or knive or hell even nail file and killed the scum would you sentence her to any type of murder and feel her response was unjust because its "only some minor bruising and tearing?"

    My stance is, if the assault and rape can be proved she walks and deadly force is definitely justified.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Mod can you please fix my two typos LOL
    Poll question should read "If assult and rape can be proven, is deadly force:"
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    If you are being assaulted or raped then deadly force is necessary and justified.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you are being assaulted or raped then deadly force is necessary and justified.
    I dont know about the OR part

    Assault alone may or may not require deadly force, it would depend on ones definition of assault.

    For example you tell some girl she has the hottest rack you have ever seen and you'd like to live in there, she then proceeds to smack you, which is assault and then you shoot her. Uhm, I dont think I let you walk if Im on that jury

    I know thats not what you meant but I just felt like being funny and being an ass for a minute
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I dont know about the OR part

    Assault alone may or may not require deadly force, it would depend on ones definition of assault.

    For example you tell some girl she has the hottest rack you have ever seen and you'd like to live in there, she then proceeds to smack you, which is assault and then you shoot her. Uhm, I dont think I let you walk if Im on that jury

    I know thats not what you meant but I just felt like being funny and being an ass for a minute
    I guess it would depend on the degree of assault and or battery.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Assault is justified, and if necessary I think it would be ok to take the rapist's life if he is dangerous. Many rapists rape and kill their victims. I have no problem with assault being used in defense or lethal force if necessary.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Assault and I am in fear of my life? Killing the fool would be justified.

    Rape? Killing the fool would be justified.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    I believe people should be allowed to use lethal force to defend themselves from harsh language.

    I do not believe in proportional force. If someone is attacking you, you should be allowed to do whatever it takes to make them stop.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Assault is justified, and if necessary I think it would be ok to take the rapist's life if he is dangerous. Many rapists rape and kill their victims. I have no problem with assault being used in defense or lethal force if necessary.
    See thats my thought process Digs, I dont really know if a lot of rape victims are killed its actually probably low since there are so many rapes BUT if a person is mentally unstable enough to assault and rape how could the victim EVER assume she wasnt in danger of being killed by a nut case like that?
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Many rapes and assualts end in the death of the victim. I can't begin to know the end intention of my attacker, but if I have a reason to fear for my life, I'm justified in using deadly force to end the threat.
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