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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong?? But in order to justify deadly force, you must only feel that your life is in danger or fear for your life.. Since the rape victim or assult victim have no clue as to whether or not they will also be killed.. If they fear for their lives, they are justified to use deadly force to protect themselves..
    IN most US jurisidictions, if you are in imminent danger of death or grave bodily harm, or a forcible felony committed on your person, you may use lethal force if you are unable to retreat from the situation.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    IIrc, it's already such that if you have a reasonable fear that your life is in danger then you can commit homicide to save yourself.
    hom·i·cide/ˈhäməˌsīd/Noun


    1. The deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.


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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Legally, "homicide" is any death of another person caused by one's actions. It includes "negligent homicide" which is not intentional and "justifiable homicide" which is not illegal.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    That's the trouble with using dictionaries to find legal definitions of words.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Its not like an assailant negotiates a contract with you and you know to what level you are about to be assaulted. If someone sets out to cause me bodily harm of any nature, in the words of Marian Cobretti...Im going to "use everything I have" to bring about a quick fast and in a hurry resolution in my favor. If my family or a woman or children is at risk? Forget about it. Lethal force would be the least of the assailants concern. And no...thats not meant to sound all 'internet tough guy' like. Im just sayin...

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Deadly force is justified any time you find your life in a condition of immediate, clear, and present, danger.
    Rape? Only a true moron would argue that it isn't such a condition.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    See thats my thought process Digs, I dont really know if a lot of rape victims are killed its actually probably low since there are so many rapes BUT if a person is mentally unstable enough to assault and rape how could the victim EVER assume she wasnt in danger of being killed by a nut case like that?
    You are entitled to use deadly force if you're being raped, legally speaking, or if you about to be raped. /discussion.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    There was a discussion about assault and rape and the use of deadly force and a poster stated something along the lines of:

    "Thats ridiculous. You wouldnt get away with that in a court of law and if you did, it be wrong and you shouldn't be able to. Rape alone does not cause grave bodily harm its just minor bruising and tearing. Injuries like those will heal completely within a few days. Only if you are being attacked with a deadly weapon or in the middle of be strangled to death can you use deadly force otherwise it is completely illegal and completely immoral"

    also then compared it to a bar fight and how he would be able to just "full the guy full of lead"

    Now I know this is just opinion and not matter what happens the law has to do its job, I could shoot a guy standing over me with an axe and I still have to face the law so im not asking that question. Nobody is above the law but what I want to know is if you are on a jury and a women was being beat and raped and managed to pull a gun or knive or hell even nail file and killed the scum would you sentence her to any type of murder and feel her response was unjust because its "only some minor bruising and tearing?"

    My stance is, if the assault and rape can be proved she walks and deadly force is definitely justified.
    Jesus. Are you kidding me? It only causes "minor bruising and tearing. Injuries like those will heal completely within a few days." What a clueless moron. Seriously. Rape causes life long damage, beyond what is physical. Not only that, some rape victims are severely beaten. I know I would be if some prick tried to rape me. He'd be in for the fight of his worthless life. I'd rather die than be raped. So yes, if anyone ever rapes me. I will kill them. I will spend every moment of my life until I find them. Then, they will die. And what's more, they'll be damn lucky if they don't suffer before I take end their miserable existence.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    There was a discussion about assault and rape and the use of deadly force and a poster stated something along the lines of:

    "Thats ridiculous. You wouldnt get away with that in a court of law and if you did, it be wrong and you shouldn't be able to. Rape alone does not cause grave bodily harm its just minor bruising and tearing. Injuries like those will heal completely within a few days. Only if you are being attacked with a deadly weapon or in the middle of be strangled to death can you use deadly force otherwise it is completely illegal and completely immoral"

    also then compared it to a bar fight and how he would be able to just "full the guy full of lead"

    Now I know this is just opinion and not matter what happens the law has to do its job, I could shoot a guy standing over me with an axe and I still have to face the law so im not asking that question. Nobody is above the law but what I want to know is if you are on a jury and a women was being beat and raped and managed to pull a gun or knive or hell even nail file and killed the scum would you sentence her to any type of murder and feel her response was unjust because its "only some minor bruising and tearing?"

    My stance is, if the assault and rape can be proved she walks and deadly force is definitely justified.
    If a person attacks me or rapes my wife or children they had better know that I will kill them or die trying to kill them. The law be damned. It is as simple as that.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Jesus. Are you kidding me? It only causes "minor bruising and tearing. Injuries like those will heal completely within a few days." What a clueless moron. Seriously. Rape causes life long damage, beyond what is physical. Not only that, some rape victims are severely beaten. I know I would be if some prick tried to rape me. He'd be in for the fight of his worthless life. I'd rather die than be raped. So yes, if anyone ever rapes me. I will kill them. I will spend every moment of my life until I find them. Then, they will die. And what's more, they'll be damn lucky if they don't suffer before I take end their miserable existence.

    At one time in this country, rape was punishable by death. And it should be.
    It was Demon of Light... seriously.

    Rape is very serious, and I agree that it should have the Death Penalty attached to it for clear cut "Attacker Rape" or whatever you want to call it. Date rape or rape where they started and then she wants to stop and he doesn't stop, as bad as that is, no DP. Just a long prison sentence where they get to be the raped.
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