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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    They're Straw Vulcans who refuse to acknowledge the validity of psychological concerns. Sometimes it helps to remind them that waterboarding does even less physical damage; other times, they don't see what the big deal about that is, either.

    The only foolproof method of educating them on the issue is unfortunately unacceptable.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    The quote in the OP makes me see red. "Minor bruising and tearing." As if having one's vagina torn apart is no big deal. I wonder if it would be a big deal if the poster who said that had his rectum violated with a weapon large enough to cause "minor bruising and tearing" of his anus and colon.

    There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people on this planet who would rather die than be raped. Many of those who are raped WILL die, killed by their families or by committing suicide. Rape is not a "minor" crime. It's a crime that scars its victims for life.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The quote in the OP makes me see red. "Minor bruising and tearing." As if having one's vagina torn apart is no big deal. I wonder if it would be a big deal if the poster who said that had his rectum violated with a weapon large enough to cause "minor bruising and tearing" of his anus and colon.

    There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people on this planet who would rather die than be raped. Many of those who are raped WILL die, killed by their families or by committing suicide. Rape is not a "minor" crime. It's a crime that scars its victims for life.
    yep its actually disgusting to down play rape like that, like VK said theres one sure way to educate them but 2 wrongs dont make a right but Im thinkin he meant we should have them brutally assaulted and raped and then see how they feel about "just bruises"
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    yep its actually disgusting to down play rape like that, like VK said theres one sure way to educate them but 2 wrongs dont make a right but Im thinkin he meant we should have them brutally assaulted and raped and then see how they feel about "just bruises"
    Obviously we shouldn't, but damned if I'm not tempted sometimes. It doesn't even have to be brutal, because it isn't the physical damage that leaves a lasting impression.

    It just distresses me that people can be so completely and utterly clueless about how other human beings work. I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that we live in a world where some people are never forced to understand. I think I would prefer it if I didn't.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Obviously we shouldn't, but damned if I'm not tempted sometimes. It doesn't even have to be brutal, because it isn't the physical damage that leaves a lasting impression.

    It just distresses me that people can be so completely and utterly clueless about how other human beings work. I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that we live in a world where some people are never forced to understand. I think I would prefer it if I didn't.


    I agree 100% thats why I said they have to be psychologically damaged and or a sexual predator themselves.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Assault and rape may be met with deadly force.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    See thats my thought process Digs, I dont really know if a lot of rape victims are killed its actually probably low since there are so many rapes BUT if a person is mentally unstable enough to assault and rape how could the victim EVER assume she wasnt in danger of being killed by a nut case like that?
    As a woman, that would exactly describe my mindset were I in that position. There is no way of knowing if the rapist wouldn't murder. I think any woman would fight for her life and if that meant killing the rapist to make it stop, so be it.

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Many rapes and assualts end in the death of the victim. I can't begin to know the end intention of my attacker, but if I have a reason to fear for my life, I'm justified in using deadly force to end the threat.
    Exactly what I was about to say. You don't know the intentions of your attacker, but considering they're attacking you it's reasonable to assume the worst. Deadly force is perfectly justified in the face of such vicious aggression. Then again, I have no problem with using deadly force against any home invader either.
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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Correct me if I am wrong?? But in order to justify deadly force, you must only feel that your life is in danger or fear for your life.. Since the rape victim or assult victim have no clue as to whether or not they will also be killed.. If they fear for their lives, they are justified to use deadly force to protect themselves..

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    Re: Assult and Rape, does it justify deadly force?

    Totally, 100% justified.
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