View Poll Results: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

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  • Neither should be banned.

    23 50.00%
  • Both should be banned.

    17 36.96%
  • Only the DUI checkpoint app should be banned.

    1 2.17%
  • Only the Red Light came app should be banned.

    3 6.52%
  • I do not know know/maybe/other

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Neither should be banned. As far as I am aware, it is not against the law to avoid a DUI checkpoint or red light camera by taking another route. Ergo, there is no legal reason for which to ban them.

    And personally, I think they're a fantastic idea. I'm try to avoid DUI checkpoints if I can, because I don't like waiting to go through them. And I absolutely despise red light cameras. They cause more accidents than they prevent, and they often times try to ticket you for something legal (like a right turn on red).
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    There is no purpose to these applications except to make it easier to break the law and these particular laws are absolutely necessary for public safety.
    Agree...but what pisses me off is that (in this state anyway), first-time offenders for DUI get 48-hours in jail, are forced to do three 8-hour shifts of garbage pick-up; one year on a restricted license; and one year probation (the last two parts don't bother me).

    BUT, get caught texting and driving (proven over and over to be much more dangerous) and you get a $50 fine.
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    We presently have no law against talking on a phone while driving, but that's considered equally as dangerous.
    Drivers on Cell Phones Are as Bad as Drunks - University of Utah News Release: June 29th, 2006

    In other words, these laws really aren't about highway safety at all or they would treat equally dangerous driving as equally dangerous. But they don't.

    Yes. Drunk drivers account for 29% of accidents (though some questions those statistics). But that means dumb-ass sober drivers account for 71% of them.

    If you get pulled over for a DUI and you've not actually caused anyone any harm, why is that worse than someone who drives poorly sober but does cause a wreck?

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Drunk driving laws have a century of advocacy from the Temperance League. Cell phones are new, and almost nobody is opposed to the idea of cell phones, so the laws will never have the same lobbying pressure.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Neither should be banned.
    Both should be banned.
    Only the DUI checkpoint app should be banned.
    Only the Red Light came app should be banned.
    I do not know know/maybe.

    As far as I am concerned the government has no business banning either.If I choose to want to have these apps then it is my business. Besides that they usually advertise on TV where and when they are going to have DUI check point.And as far as I am concerned red light cams only prove that it was your car that ran the red light not you,so you should not be forced to pay for a ticket for an offenses that you did not do nor can they prove you did.



    I remember commenting in another thread how this should be invent,it looks like somebody already has.
    Four senators target DUI checkpoint apps - USATODAY.com
    In a letter Tuesday, the senators asked Apple, Google and BlackBerry to either disable or quit selling downloadable applications that allow iPhone and iPad, BlackBerry and Android operating systems to identify locations of local police DUI crackdowns.

    "We know that your companies share our desire to end the scourge of drunk driving, and we therefore would ask you to remove these applications from your store unless they are altered to remove the DUI/DWI checkpoint functionality," wrote Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada, Charles Schumer of New York, Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Tom Udall of New Mexico.
    I mis-voted. I'd vote "Other." If state's want to make using them illegal, that's on them. (Just like radar detectors....they make 'em, but in many states they're illegal.)
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Drunk driving laws have a century of advocacy from the Temperance League. Cell phones are new, and almost nobody is opposed to the idea of cell phones, so the laws will never have the same lobbying pressure.
    So talking and texting on cell phones is more wildly accepted so even though it's just as dangerous, if not more, than drinking and driving; because so many people do it and have not associated a negative stereotype due to decades of MADD and other propagandists, it's ok?
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    The apps should not be banned. However both of these big brother nanny state law enforcement tools which violate the constitution should be banned.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So talking and texting on cell phones is more wildly accepted so even though it's just as dangerous, if not more, than drinking and driving; because so many people do it and have not associated a negative stereotype due to decades of MADD and other propagandists, it's ok?
    I didn't say anything about "okay". I said that texting-while-driving laws will never receive the same political support as drunk driving laws because there's nobody opposed to using cell phones in principle.

    If I had my way, using a cell phone while driving would carry penalties similar to DUI. You might have noticed this already, but I never get my way.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I didn't say anything about "okay". I said that texting-while-driving laws will never receive the same political support as drunk driving laws because there's nobody opposed to using cell phones in principle.

    If I had my way, using a cell phone while driving would carry penalties similar to DUI. You might have noticed this already, but I never get my way.
    Yeah, well neither do I, for if I had my way DUI penalties would be similar to cell phone penalties. At least if you didn't cause an accident or damage property.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Okay, I misunderstood the question. I thought the question was whether red light cameras and DUI checkpoints should be banned... I don't think they should be. Apps that help drunks and reckless drivers avoid getting caught, yes, they should be banned. So my answer on the poll is wrong.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Neither should be banned. Both DUI checkpoints and Red Light Cameras are violations of a citizen's rights, and are really nothing more than shameless money grabs on the part of the state. There is no law that prevents citizens from sharing the locations of a checkpoint or camera personally, so why should an app that does the same thing be banned? However, even if these companies do remove the apps from their official stores, I see that having no impact on the average smart device user. Any app banned from the official app store is usually available on the jailbroken market within a matter of days. I'd love to see government try to go after the actual producers of the software and win that one in court.
    Amen.......

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