View Poll Results: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

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  • Neither should be banned.

    23 50.00%
  • Both should be banned.

    17 36.96%
  • Only the DUI checkpoint app should be banned.

    1 2.17%
  • Only the Red Light came app should be banned.

    3 6.52%
  • I do not know know/maybe/other

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by PT Again View Post
    Yes you can contest it. Lawyers are making a living off of it. The city that has the cameras gets the lions share of the revenue. The state gets a portion, and the company that installed them gets a portion plus a monthly fee for maintaining them. These deals are made with individual cities.........not the state..........We in Houston voted them out...........and they were promptly turned off. Also the state not renewing your licence is a bluff..............the state made no such deal. They just put that on the fine to scare you into paying it. Why would the state not renew your 60 registration over a their 10% of a $75 dollar fine (7.50) Makes no sense
    They wouldn't be able to put that the registration will not be renewed if that were not the case. Somebody would have raised holy hell and had that removed from the forms if it weren't valid.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by PT Again View Post
    Yes you can contest it. Lawyers are making a living off of it. The city that has the cameras gets the lions share of the revenue. The state gets a portion, and the company that installed them gets a portion plus a monthly fee for maintaining them. These deals are made with individual cities.........not the state..........We in Houston voted them out...........and they were promptly turned off. Also the state not renewing your licence is a bluff..............the state made no such deal. They just put that on the fine to scare you into paying it. Why would the state not renew your 60 registration over a their 10% of a $75 dollar fine (7.50) Makes no sense
    Also, not $75. I received a $250 fine.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    That's a fair argument.

    It's a stupid argument. The camera is activated by the red light going on, and triggered by a vehicle crossing against it. The process is testable and verifiable. The camera is not the accuser, but the agency controlling the camera is.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Also, not $75. I received a $250 fine.
    Where did you get a $250 red light camera ticket?

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They wouldn't be able to put that the registration will not be renewed if that were not the case. Somebody would have raised holy hell and had that removed from the forms if it weren't valid.
    Re-read the letter...........they say it may or can.........the state did not sign on to this. Do a little research on the things...........and see just how many people just tell them to piss off and send it to collections..........cause thats as bad as it can get.............

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    I should be able to avoid a DUI check point because I don't drink and I hate red light cams.

    They don't allow for greater traffic flow but exist to catch the every so often red light runner for city revenue.

    The apps are fine with me.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's a stupid argument. The camera is activated by the red light going on, and triggered by a vehicle crossing against it. The process is testable and verifiable. The camera is not the accuser, but the agency controlling the camera is.
    ITs just like parking ticket............you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent..................thats ass backwards buddy..............good luck getting my car to pay the fine

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Neither should be banned.
    Both should be banned.
    Only the DUI checkpoint app should be banned.
    Only the Red Light came app should be banned.
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    As far as I am concerned the government has no business banning either.If I choose to want to have these apps then it is my business. Besides that they usually advertise on TV where and when they are going to have DUI check point.And as far as I am concerned red light cams only prove that it was your car that ran the red light not you,so you should not be forced to pay for a ticket for an offenses that you did not do nor can they prove you did.




    I remember commenting in another thread how this should be invent,it looks like somebody already has.
    Four senators target DUI checkpoint apps - USATODAY.com
    In a letter Tuesday, the senators asked Apple, Google and BlackBerry to either disable or quit selling downloadable applications that allow iPhone and iPad, BlackBerry and Android operating systems to identify locations of local police DUI crackdowns.

    "We know that your companies share our desire to end the scourge of drunk driving, and we therefore would ask you to remove these applications from your store unless they are altered to remove the DUI/DWI checkpoint functionality," wrote Sens. Harry Reid of Nevada, Charles Schumer of New York, Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Tom Udall of New Mexico.
    I like the camera cams as a means of intimidating drivers to obey laws. I would like to see portable units that can be set into neighborhoods to catch speeders, or country roads, etc. We have laws and the laws should be enforced. The cam is the cheapest way to do that.


    I feel DUI check points should be illegal, as the police are allowed to intrude on the majority's sober life, for the sake of one drunk. Instead, how about some hard core laws to intimidate drunks into submission. eg. You DUI, you forfit your car or whoevers car you were driving, you lose your driver license for 5 years, you go to prison for 5 years if caught driving after the initial sentence. Instead of trying to stop DUI criminals, they work on prevention, such as a sniffer device set up in a booth outside a bar or night club, that measures your alcohol level. Elmo knows they tax bar owners enough to set up such devices.

    Law enforcement has no right to require any business stop making devices to assist a person in the commission of a crime. Next they will want QVC to stop advertising knife sets. The slippery slope syndrome.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's a stupid argument. The camera is activated by the red light going on, and triggered by a vehicle crossing against it. The process is testable and verifiable. The camera is not the accuser, but the agency controlling the camera is.
    I already addressed this. A machine cannot make a judgment call like a human officer can. The machine sees something over a certain line while the light is red and it takes a picture and issues a ticket. The officer can see the same thing and determine whether or not a ticket is warranted. He can also defend his judgement in court. A camera cannot. The agency controlling the camera was not on-scene or even actively monitoring or controlling the camera. The system is automated. Besides, a machine often requires calibration to be correct, a human does not.

    If the point of the cameras is increased public safety, why have there been multiple cities caught dangerously shortening the yellow lights in order to boost the number of tickets generated? Why do red light cameras that are not proving to be profitable get taken down? The answer is simple, it's really just about revenue under the guise of public safety.

    Couldn't it be argued that an app is promoting public safety just as much as the checkpoints and cameras are? If I know there's a checkpoint on my way home, then maybe I'll skip having that 2nd or 3rd beer. If I know there's red light cameras on my way to work, maybe I'll leave a few minutes early so I'm not having to speed through the intersections.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Did you mistake the poll for "DUI checkpoints and red cams" instead of "DUI check points and red light cam apps"?
    Yes, yes I did. Damned it.
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