View Poll Results: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

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  • Neither should be banned.

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  • Both should be banned.

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  • Only the DUI checkpoint app should be banned.

    1 2.17%
  • Only the Red Light came app should be banned.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Actually you can contest a violation.
    Red-light Safety Camera Program | City of Fort Worth, Texas
    Contesting a Violation

    If, after viewing your video at www.ViolationInfo.com, you feel a violation does not exist, you may contest the violation in writing by completing the coupon on the back of your notice and returning it back by the due date. All contests must be made in writing.

    The vehicle owner will be notified in writing of the date, time and location of the hearing. If the vehicle owner is found liable or fails to appear, the civil penalty must be paid within 30 days. No additional fees will be added.

    If you receive a notice of violation for a vehicle you do not own or was reported stolen at the time of violation, submit an affidavit of non-liability by the due date. Affidavits are available at www.ViolationInfo.com and must be completed, notarized, and mailed to:
    Violation Processing Center
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    If you have sold the vehicle, visit the Texas Department of Transportation Web site to ensure your vehicle's title was properly transferred.
    Doesn't putting reflectorized tape over thenumbers on the plate make this a moot point? If the camera can't see the number it can't send the violation.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    I think there are legitimate reasons to run a red light. If the person behind you isn't going to stop or slow down and you think you may get hit, then going through the light while it is almost red (i.e. on yellow but towards the end of the yellow, where you would end up in the middle of the intersection when the light turns red). People often get tickets for making a legal right turn as tessa mentioned. There are a few other reasons as well. When the camera takes a picture of you and you get a ticket a few days later you may not remember what happened and even if you do, how can you prove it. Now I am in favor of speeding cameras and DUI checkpoints(although I haven't given much thought to this one, so my opinion might change). To the person who said that it proves your car ran it not you... If someone is driving your car, it is your responsibility. Period. Thats the way the law works and don't loan your car to someone you don't trust. If they run a red light make them pay it.

    Now to the apps, I am on the fence about it. I know for red light cameras at least in this area, there is a sign that says that this intersection is photo enforced or something like that. I think it even says it on my GPS. I don't think people should be drinking and driving so anyway cops can get people that are doing it, I say go for it. Banning these apps though seems wrong but I can't explain why I think that.
    Does that only apply to cars?

    If you loan your buddy your rifle and he kills somebody while he is hunting, should you go to jail instead of him?

    There is no legal basis for your point.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovetosing4678 View Post
    I have two issues with this post. First, no law that prevents citizens from sharing locations of a checkpoint or camera. Maybe not particularly in this case, but there was a speed trap on a road and my mom tried to alert other drivers by flashing her lights. A cop saw her and gave her a ticket. I would think the same law she broke would apply in this situation as well.

    Second, the money grabbing. If you choose to break the law, you should pay. People keep complaining that the state has no money and they keep cutting important programs but no one is willing to find ways to gain money or cut anything. What is wrong with charging people that break the law more money to deter them from continuing to put other people in danger?
    Did your mother plead not guilty and what was the outcome when she did?

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Doesn't putting reflectorized tape over thenumbers on the plate make this a moot point? If the camera can't see the number it can't send the violation.

    Whoa and if you get caught doing that...........

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Whoa and if you get caught doing that...........
    Caught doing it? It is invisible at street level but makes the numbers unreadable from above.

    Who says you can't put a layer of tape on your plate to protect it from the elements? I beleive the law says that nothing can be on the plate that obstructs the view of the numbering. The tape doesn't.

    Besides if the govt is going to use tactics such as this, they should not be surprised when people try to protect themselves from it.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Caught doing it? It is invisible at street level but makes the numbers unreadable from above.

    Who says you can't put a layer of tape on your plate to protect it from the elements? I beleive the law says that nothing can be on the plate that obstructs the view of the numbering. The tape doesn't.

    Besides if the govt is going to use tactics such as this, they should not be surprised when people try to protect themselves from it.
    I'm not a lawyer and I would check in your State to see what the details are.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You are searching my person if you want to determine that I am drunk. If I show signs of being drunk observed by the police, that's one thing. They are well within their power to pull me over. If I do not, then they have no rightful reason to pull me over.

    You don't have to make my arguments for me because then the arguments would be dumb. So please keep your hands off. Jesus, now the police even want to take our ideas and thinking processes.
    So you consider it a "search" to look at someone? No, thats called plain view. And odors are a part of plain view.

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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Doesn't putting reflectorized tape over thenumbers on the plate make this a moot point? If the camera can't see the number it can't send the violation.
    If the sprays and other stuff do not work then I do not know why reflective tape would be any different.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You are searching my person if you want to determine that I am drunk. If I show signs of being drunk observed by the police, that's one thing. They are well within their power to pull me over. If I do not, then they have no rightful reason to pull me over.

    You don't have to make my arguments for me because then the arguments would be dumb. So please keep your hands off. Jesus, now the police even want to take our ideas and thinking processes.
    You don't have to explain **** to me. I work within these rules every day according to what the courts see them as. You just read them and repeat them over and over without ever even bothering to mention what they actually mean.
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    Re: Should DUI checkpoint and red light cam apps be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's because you want to be dishonest about it. Even without attorney, you can get up to 6 or 7 thousand dollars. While an attorney may not be the "problem of the state", it is still money which is spent by someone arrested for DUI. Try a bit of honesty please.
    Dishonest? The decision to hire counsel or to just plea guilty is on the individual.

    I have never seen someone who represented themselves get a harsher sentence than someone who payed an attorney $7,000 just to have the attorney tell the judge they are guilty.

    Thinking that an attorney will make your sentence lighter in all cases is just assinine.

    Thinking its the state's responsibility how much a private attorney charges you for his/her representation is also asinine.

    You try a bit of honesty please. Your (not you specifically) attempt to "get off" of a crime that you very well committed (and then failure to do so resulting in even more cost to you) is not the state's problem.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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