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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Update: The WHO chose not to order the virus destroyed, giving the US and Russian governments three more years to study the virus.
    Smallpox-Destruction Deadline Delayed for 3 Years - WSJ.com
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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The World Health Organization is meeting this week to decide whether or not the last existing smallpox samples - held by a lab in Atlanta and a lab in Novosibirsk - should be destroyed. They're expected to render a decision sometime in the very near future.

    The US and Russian governments are bristling at the idea, claiming that it's necessary to keep the disease around in order to deal with a potential outbreak; the smallpox genome HAS been sequenced, which means that it's theoretically possible for it to come back in a couple decades when genetic engineering has improved, even if the samples are destroyed.

    Most other nations think that the risks of keeping the virus outweigh the benefits. As long as the virus is kept around, there is an increased chance that it could be reintroduced into the public, accidentally or intentionally.

    What do you think? Should the last remaining smallpox viruses be destroyed?
    The Soviet Union, under Nobel Peace Prize winner Mikey Gorbachev, manufactured some twenty-five tons of weaponized smallpox.

    Clearly the Russians are unreliable custodians of the trust.

    The Americans have been responsible custodians.

    The real question is that given the lax nature of the former USSR's security measures is how much variola has been taken or sold illicitly?

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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't trust the WHO, they aren't scientific and serve only political interests. Whatever they decide just do the opposite
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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's not peer reviewed, and many times when scientists want to see their data and methods for findings they will not report it.
    Why would scientists want access to data and findings which are not peer reviewed? Your claim appears to be internally contradictory. Do you have examples? How does your understanding of their role compare to their stated aims?

    "WHO fulfils its objectives through its core functions:

    providing leadership on matters critical to health and engaging in partnerships where joint action is needed;
    shaping the research agenda and stimulating the generation, translation and dissemination of valuable knowledge;
    setting norms and standards and promoting and monitoring their implementation;
    articulating ethical and evidence-based policy options;
    providing technical support, catalysing change, and building sustainable institutional capacity; and
    monitoring the health situation and assessing health trends.
    These core functions are set out in the 11th General Programme of Work, which provides the framework for organization-wide programme of work, budget, resources and results. Entitled "Engaging for health", it covers the 10-year period from 2006 to 2015. "
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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The World Health Organization is meeting this week to decide whether or not the last existing smallpox samples - held by a lab in Atlanta and a lab in Novosibirsk - should be destroyed. They're expected to render a decision sometime in the very near future.

    The US and Russian governments are bristling at the idea, claiming that it's necessary to keep the disease around in order to deal with a potential outbreak; the smallpox genome HAS been sequenced, which means that it's theoretically possible for it to come back in a couple decades when genetic engineering has improved, even if the samples are destroyed.

    Most other nations think that the risks of keeping the virus outweigh the benefits. As long as the virus is kept around, there is an increased chance that it could be reintroduced into the public, accidentally or intentionally.

    What do you think? Should the last remaining smallpox viruses be destroyed?
    Render a decision? Who the hell do they think they are?
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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Update: The WHO chose not to order the virus destroyed, giving the US and Russian governments three more years to study the virus.
    Smallpox-Destruction Deadline Delayed for 3 Years - WSJ.com
    PFFFT, this is really a joke? Order to destroy? Again, who do THEY think they are?
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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Important update from the US to WHO:

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    Re: Should the last smallpox viruses be destroyed?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Render a decision? Who the hell do they think they are?
    From a legal standpoint the WHO owns the last remaining smallpox samples. The US and Russian governments are merely the custodians of it. The WHO allows them to conduct research on the virus at their facilities, in exchange for providing security so that it can't escape. But my understanding is that the WHO has the final say on what happens to it.
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