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    should this judge resign his club membership?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/17/us/17bar.html?ref=us

    The code forbids federal judges from being members of clubs that discriminate based on race or gender.


    no women, no minorities. discuss.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Does the club actively discriminate based on race/gender?

    Or does it just happen that white men like to get together to play some golf?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    I see no reason to be a member of a country club anyway. Networking is possible through other means, right?
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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Does the club actively discriminate based on race/gender?

    Or does it just happen that white men like to get together to play some golf?
    The article says the club has only ever admitted 1 black man as a non-voting member, and that women can join, but can't vote in club decisions...so in a way, yeah.
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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The article says the club has only ever admitted 1 black man as a non-voting member, and that women can join, but can't vote in club decisions...so in a way, yeah.
    Okay it seems that it's a club of douchebags.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Does the club actively discriminate based on race/gender?

    Or does it just happen that white men like to get together to play some golf?
    please.......did you read the entire article?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I see no reason to be a member of a country club anyway. Networking is possible through other means, right?
    i don't care if one is a member of a club........but this judge is prohibited from belonging to this particular club.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    please.......did you read the entire article?
    He should leave the club, or his position as a judge.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    those judges who voted to authorize the continued membership are an embarrassment to the judiciary ... as is the judge who has chosen to ignore the federal code of conduct - to avoid the appearance of partiality

    let's ignore the racial aspect, because there is no barrier to a minority (male) from participating as a member (even tho none has been accepted as a member) ... well, other than the membership's willingness to vote against minority applicants

    but it is so obvious that women members are intentionally excluded:
    ... Women, for their part, may join as “lady members.” Those memberships do not come with a vote ...
    clearly a disparate eligibility position based on gender
    here is what should have been determinative in finding the judge ineligible to retain membership in this club - which does practice overt gender discrimination:
    ... The code forbids federal judges from being members of clubs that discriminate based on race or gender. The commentary makes a limited exception for judges who “make immediate and continuous efforts to have the organization discontinue its invidiously discriminatory practices.”

    But even such energetic judges must resign, the commentary says, if the practices do not cease “as promptly as possible” and “in all events within two years.”

    Judge Paine joined Belle Meade in 1978. ...
    the only good thing about that article is the knowledge that the offending judge will be off the bench (via voluntary retirement) by january

    really hoping our resident attorney, the one who specializes in federal employment discrimination cases, chooses to chime in with his "considered" opinion on this matter
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    Re: should this judge resign his club membership?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    He should leave the club, or his position as a judge.
    exactly. thanks.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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