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Thread: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    No. She is democratically elected to that position. If she continues to be elected then no unless her people from her district want her to resign then we should seriously think about it..


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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    fascinating. So Obamacare Is Wonderful and Good and Creates Jobs and that's why it's So Important that it Not Be Allowed In My District.

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
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    If this is such a great thing, why is she collecting waivers for her district?

    The question I propose is should she resign?
    What is the Daily Caller? Sounds and looks partisan to me. So basically Im not voting because the information is 90% BS or twisted in some form.
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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    If this is such a great thing, why is she collecting waivers for her district?
    Where in this article does it say she had any hand in giving out these waivers?
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Where in this article does it say she had any hand in giving out these waivers?
    do you honestly believe it is merely a coincidence?

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    This would be illegal if all or even if MOST of these companies contributed to her campaign, but this is merely speculation.
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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    Here is the explanation for it. They are applying for waivers because of a law passed in 2008. This information was not public when the Daily Caller published.



    In actuality, Aitken explained, the high percentage of waivers is the byproduct of local law rubbing against the new national legislation. In April 2008, San Francisco passed an ordinance requiring employers to spend a minimum amount per hour on health care for their employees who work in the city. In response, a number of eateries chose to set up Health Reimbursement Arrangements, which are essentially pools of funds set aside by employers to reimburse medical expenses paid by employees.

    HRAs are serviced by a third-party administrator or plan service provider. They are also subject to the annual limit provision in the national health care law, which is set at $750,000 in 2011 before it is eliminated fully in 2014.

    Like many self-insurance policies and union organizations, employers using HRAs have been applying for a waiver from this provision, arguing that application of the requirements would "completely eliminate the benefit" of setting up the HRA in the first place, Flex-Plan Services said. When they do so, they turn not to lawmakers like Pelosi or to the employers themselves, but to third-party administers like Aitken's company. (And, as she hinted, political donations by Flex-Plan have leaned Republican, according to data collected by the Center for Responsive Politics.)

    "These are some of the administrative hiccups that, I think, when you have a giant health care overhaul like this, you’re bound to have," said Aitken. "And I think that’s exactly why [the Department of Health and Human Services] put in the option for waivers, because they knew that there are some players who have different types of arrangements all over the nation."

    On January 7, 2011, Flex Plan first requested waivers for its clients. In a letter to the HHS, the company's attorney Tina Ann Davis, wrote that, “[m]any of our HRAs were implemented by employers to satisfy local law requirements, provide coverage that otherwise would not be offered, or to help employees with their out-of-pocket medical care costs," the letter reads. "HRAs allow these employers to comply with the local law while providing an affordable health care benefit to their employees."

    Aitken confirmed the authenticity of this letter.

    This information, however, was not public knowledge prior to the Daily Caller's piece. And the disclosure on Tuesday morning that a number of businesses in Pelosi's own district had been granted waivers immediately became partisan fodder, with the Drudge Report linking to the story and the topic being pushed during White House Press Secretary Jay Carney's briefing.

    Nancy Pelosi Is Being 'Thrown Under The Bus,' Says Company That Requested Health Care Waivers

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    do you honestly believe it is merely a coincidence?
    94% of all companies that applied for waivers got them. They wouldn't have needed her help in getting them. To act as though she did something illegal or immoral is silly and unless you have something more than your hatred for her to go off of I'd suggest people quit spreading lies.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Nancy Pelosi Hoarding Obamacare Waivers. Should She Resign?

    There's nothing really illegal about this, and even ethically compared to actual "ethics violations" in congress I wouldn't say this is much of a thing. So as much as I'd love to see Nancy gone, nothing to resign over here.

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