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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Perhaps, on a state level, if a person has multiple DUI's and still has their DL (which is a stretch), then sure. Otherwise, no. So I had to vote "maybe".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Next they'll put a breathalyzer on your gun, your beer bottle, and your pecker, to make sure you're not too drunk to use those.
    A breathalyzer on your pecker

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    How about an idiocy detector? Keep it limp until that bigger head starts to function?
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    I say it should be a National program!!! Why? Because people take is sooooooooooo seriously. One DUI and you cant drive for a YEAR. Bye bye job. Oh! And you have to see a parole officer every month for 2 years. Oh! And you have to pay $500 for a alcohol evaluation test. THEN you have to pay $2500 for a alcohol treatment course that you MUST show up to (how are you going to get there?) 2 -3 times a week for six months!!! Oh! And there is the $3,500 - $10,000+ lawyer fees. Oh! there is the police impound fee of $300 - $600 you must pay in order to get your car out of the towing companys impound lot.... THEN you have to pay the towing company $250 for the tow and then $75 for every DAY it was in their lot!!!! THEN there is the municipality cost.... ranges from $3K to $5K plus all the court costs which varies but is around ANOTHER $5K!!!!!!
    Then after a year after your freakin life has been destroyed, you can get your license back. BUUUUT... there is a fee! Generally $500 - $1000 MORE!!!!!
    Oh yea..... every time you see the probation officer..... that will cost you $50

    All for having a few beers. Youre a evil EVIL person!

    See!!! This DUI stuff must be VERY serious! More serious than acutal...... CRIMES! People must be dying left and right! Oh...... wait. They ARENT! You have a better chance to be struck by lightning! Or die by an aspirin overdose! YOu are 800% more likely to be killed in a hospital by malpractice than get killed by a drunk driver!!!!

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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is a large chunk of momentum for sure. However, the portion of auto fatalities which are alcohol related has been decreasing (as a percentage) and now falling asleep/tired driving is right up there with DUI. End of the day, you will never have zero cases of DUI. Not so long as drinking is legal and driving is legal. It's ridiculous to think it can get down to that level.
    But why is it necessary to pursue a zero DUI goal? A reduction from 11,000 annual alcohol-related fatalities to 2,000 would be a big improvement and well worth the cost of the technology (again, assuming it was effective).

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    And in the end, I'm not willing to accept these sorts of infringements upon our rights; these aggressive style Big Brother searches before we can use our property or drive on the roads that we pay for. Drinking and driving can be dangerous, but the government is more so. I'd much rather take my chances with a few drunks on the road than begin to authorize horrible abuses of power and constant monitoring of the People by government goons.
    I would be opposed to reporting the results of a car's breathalyzer to the police. But if it's just something you have to do in order to start the car, and isn't being reported to the government, then I don't think the Big Brother argument flies. As for it being an infringement of our right to use our property or to use our public roads...well, you could say the same thing about ANY traffic safety law, including DUI laws themselves. The bottom line is that at some point the lives saved are simply more important than a person's right to be reckless.
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's too bad they haven't come up with an idiocy detector. A working one would eliminate 99% of all traffic accidents and make the highway patrol redundant.
    It's coming out in a few years. It's called the self-driving car, and it's slated for commercial release sometime around 2017.
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, a smart man would use an air compressor.
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Did he sit in the car fuming (becomming mad at the world) or did the use his brain and think that he should act as a responsible adult ?
    A smart man would take a 20 minute walk and think about things at the same time.
    He is the "mad at the world" type. He was fuming.
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Terrible idea. On a purely practical level, breathalyzer systems are easily bypassed by cunning drunks, so there would be minimal benefit, while all of us would have to endure the cost of installing these on a universal level. On a theoritical level, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This proposal forces me to submit to a search everytime I want to use my property, and as a bonus, I have to pay for the priveligde! No thanks.

    I know I've said this before, but I think the pendelum has swung too far on the issue of drunk driving. Legal limits are too low. Penalties in many states are too high. And too many intrusive policies are pushed through under the guise of fighting drunk driving. All that said, someone who is truly drunk has no business behind the wheel and should be punished severely, but we've flown past the point of diminishing returns and continue to go even further for ever shrinking benefits.
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Terrible idea. On a purely practical level, breathalyzer systems are easily bypassed by cunning drunks, so there would be minimal benefit,
    "Cunning drunk" is kind of an oxymoron. Besides, I don't think that most people who drink and drive have any desire to subvert the system, they just put themselves in unfortunate situations. Quite often, they might not even know that they're too drunk to be driving. A breathalyzer in their car that refuses to allow them to drive would tell them what they should have already figured out. If nothing else, it serves as a reminder to them that they shouldn't be doing what they're doing.

    Just because it's POSSIBLE to disable or circumvent them doesn't mean that most drunk drivers WILL disable or circumvent them. In fact, I would bet that only a minority of them would do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown
    while all of us would have to endure the cost of installing these on a universal level. On a theoritical level, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This proposal forces me to submit to a search everytime I want to use my property, and as a bonus, I have to pay for the priveligde! No thanks.
    It's not forcing you to submit to a search if the results aren't being reported to the police.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown
    I know I've said this before, but I think the pendelum has swung too far on the issue of drunk driving. Legal limits are too low.
    A person whose BAC is at the legal limit is already a hazard to himself and other people. The American Medical Association has found that "alcohol causes deterioration of driving skills beginning at 0.05% BAC or even lower," and advocates a legal limit as low as 0.05.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown
    Penalties in many states are too high. And too many intrusive policies are pushed through under the guise of fighting drunk driving. All that said, someone who is truly drunk has no business behind the wheel and should be punished severely, but we've flown past the point of diminishing returns and continue to go even further for ever shrinking benefits.
    If that's true, then you should welcome mandatory breathalyzers. It would prevent people from suffering those high penalties by taking the option of driving drunk off the table, and it would reduce the need for intrusive policies like mandatory DUI checkpoints (which I agree are too intrusive).
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    Re: Mandated breathalyzers in cars?

    1984 big brother intrussion into our lifes. No thankyou.

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