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Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

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Re-read what I said.
 
haymarket said:
Oh how incorrect that statement is. A bunch of angry white folks who feel this is no longer the America they remember are voting for other angry white folks who feel this is no longer the America they remember. That is 100% group identity voting.
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really. and this angry white group's tendency to fall in behind people like Cain, Rubio, and West? :roll: sorry but no, there is only one party that really cares about race anymore, and that's the one you correctly identified as having a major built-in-base for a black candidate.


ideological group. we care more about your ideological group.
 
cpwill said:
really. and this angry white group's tendency to fall in behind people like Cain, Rubio, and West? :roll: sorry but no, there is only one party that really cares about race anymore, and that's the one you correctly identified as having a major built-in-base for a black candidate.


ideological group. we care more about your ideological group.
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When Cain wins the GOP nomination, come back and strut your stuff. Until that happens you can sing another verse of "White On White".
 
Amazed said:
*"Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue."

LOL.....consensus, really?
There are as many who dispute it as there are that joined in the "consensus". GW just happens to be the Religion of choice for the Left.
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No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position."
Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


*"Perry supports Arizona immigration law SB 1070 and is willing to sign a similar bill in Texas."

Good luck with this, most American's do.
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I'll give you that one. What about the others you left out?

Do most Americans believe in creationism rather than evolution?

Do most Americans oppose the regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?

Do most Americans believe that states should secede from the union if they don't get their way?

Do most Americans not believe in AGW?
 
StillBallin75 said:
Pretty much every scientist worth his salt admits that anthropogenic global warming is happening. The only difference that exists is to what degree humans are responsible. Are we playing a minor role, or a large one?
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Actually, there is consensus on that now as well:

"An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities.[1]
Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position."

Likelihood.....I have posted some 30 scientists disputing your contention...it is the tip of the iceburg....you CHOOSE to believe it, I do not....there is no hard evidence...sorry.
Catawba said:
No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position."
Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




I'll give you that one. What about the others you left out?

Do most Americans believe in creationism rather than evolution?

Do most Americans oppose the regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?

Do most Americans believe that states should secede from the union if they don't get their way?

Do most Americans not believe in AGW?
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Amazed said:
"]likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position."

Likelihood.....I have posted some 30 scientists disputing your contention...it is the tip of the iceburg....you CHOOSE to believe it, I do not....there is no hard evidence...sorry.
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Since your red font does not convince me, I will go with the consensensus of all the scientific organizations of National or International standing since 2007, as has been documented.

:sun
 
haymarket said:
When Cain wins the GOP nomination, come back and strut your stuff. Until that happens you can sing another verse of "White On White".
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he won't win. but nobody cares about his race - we care about the fact that he has no governing experience. and I've never heard of that song - though that you have is rather telling of what I'm pointing out here; that democrats generally still care about race and republicans generally don't.


Daniels is my man. You know, the guy whose family is from Syria, which would i suppose make him the first Arab-American President?
 
cpwill said:
he won't win. but nobody cares about his race - we care about the fact that he has no governing experience. and I've never heard of that song - though that you have is rather telling of what I'm pointing out here; that democrats generally still care about race and republicans generally don't.


Daniels is my man. You know, the guy whose family is from Syria, which would i suppose make him the first Arab-American President?
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Mitch Daniels's Weird Marriage History Is the Only Thing Stopping Him From Running for President -- Daily Intel
 
Catawba said:
He might run into a problem with his own "family values" party with this, but if they decide to overlook it since he is one of their own, I don't think it would be a problem in the general election.
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His wife left him and came back, how would that pose as problem?
 
xpiher said:
His wife left him and came back, how would that pose as problem?
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Like I said, i don't think it would be a problem with the general election voters, I think it might be a problem for the moral majority types of his own party.
 
Catawba said:
Like I said, i don't think it would be a problem with the general election voters, I think it might be a problem for the moral majority types of his own party.
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HOW 10char
 
xpiher said:
HOW 10char
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I think it has absolutly nothing to do with anythng related to the office, but then I am not a member of the Christian right. You have to understand I live in the bible belt and saw first hand the reaction of the Christian right to Clinton's BJ and the John Edwards affair, so that is why I think its possible those same types might think it is immoral to leave your husband and 4 kids to run off to California with another man. Of course they eventually came back together for the kids, which I think is a positive thing, but the Christian right may not look at it that way.
 
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I live in IN and I don't see how a story of redemption and love can be viewed by the Christan Right as a negative.
 
Zyphlin said:
I like Cain but I too agree there's little chance he'll come out on top in the end of this. I also find it amazingly questionable that Republicans who (rightfully in my mind) trumpeted the experience card in the 2008 election are now backing someone with even less than the miniscule amount of applicable experience Obama had.
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See, I don't see him as less experienced. So he's never been a voting "present" short time senator. Take a look at the kind of experience he does have. I copied only what I considered to be political experience, not all of his business experience.
Introducing Herman Cain - Robert Costa - National Review Online
In many respects, Cain’s rapid emergence echoes his national political baptism.
In 1994, Cain was chairman and chief executive officer of Godfather’s Pizza, an Omaha-based chain. Pres. Bill Clinton was peddling his health-care plan at town halls. At one televised session, Cain calmly argued with the president about the cost to restaurateurs. “Mr. President,” he said, “with all due respect, your calculation on what the impact would do, quite honestly, is incorrect.”
Clinton, after a long day of softballs, was rattled. Cain, a black, southern business leader who could out-folksy Clinton, had fingered the central flaw in the administration’s proposal: the potential for increased insurance costs to eliminate jobs.
It was more than a splash of cold water; it was a punch to the gut of Hillarycare. The reaction to Cain’s critique was immediate. The exchange was featured on the CBS Evening News and ABC’s World News Tonight. Major newspapers, including the New York Times, highlighted the moment as a thorn in Clinton’s side.
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The Clinton–Cain scuffle also drew the attention of Republican leaders, from Jack Kemp to Newt Gingrich, the two of whom enlisted Cain for the Economic Growth and Tax Reform Commission, a congressional study group, following that year’s midterms. For Cain, who had little prior interest in politics, it was a sudden, though welcome, development.
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But the bug had bit. Cain, who was already a leader at the National Restaurant Association at the time of the Clinton town hall, was retained in 1996 as the group’s full-time chief executive.
As his national profile increased, Cain took on a leadership role at the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, becoming chairman in 1995. “Spending time at the Federal Reserve was a good learning opportunity for me,” he reflects. “It helped me to understand economic philosophies and polices that I had not previously known about.” For one, he saw up close how monetary policy influences the economy, from inflation to unemployment rates.
As Cain campaigns, he does not run away from his Federal Reserve experience, even as Ron Paul and others call for the institution to be eliminated. Cain would rather mend it than end it, using more congressional oversight. This is not always a crowd-pleasing message on the Des Moines–Manchester circuit. Still, as he makes this case, Cain takes care to do it with tea-party bravado, championing a strong dollar, praising the gold standard, and applauding Paul for his discerning criticism.
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After the Hillarycare battles, Cain continued to find himself dabbling in national politics. During the 1996 presidential campaign, he was an adviser to Kemp, a former congressman and housing secretary and Bob Dole’s vice-presidential nominee. The pair had clicked the previous the year on Capitol Hill while serving together on the congressional study group.
For Cain, the working relationship with Kemp was invaluable. Their discussions about the power of pro-growth politics convinced Cain that his business sense could work in the public sector. As Cain builds his own message on the trail, he often thinks back to those talks with Kemp, he says. Cain knows that Kemp could have simply given him a few token handshakes as they worked together on the panel. Instead, he found a partner.
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But GOP politicians continued to seek Cain out for counsel and support. Unsurprisingly, he remained close to Kemp, who wrote the introduction to Cain’s 1999 book, Leadership Is Common Sense. A year later, Cain was an active supporter of businessman Steve Forbes, a flat-tax champion, as he campaigned for the presidency.
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For all of his southern-fried lyricism, and the pizza jokes made at his expense, Cain’s story is much richer than he usually lets on. When the Klieg lights are shut off, he is a meticulous man in both his bookkeeping and his demeanor. Discipline and dogged ambition drive him.
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cpwill said:
Cain is this year's Huckabee, I think. His natural ease and humor on stage will get him alot of points, and the evangelical population of Iowa will give him an early boost, that he rides to impressive heights considering he came from an unknown .... but not enough to win. not even probably enough to be second. Though I choke on the words - Romney has a better chance than Cain at this point :(. Which is sad.
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I agree with your analysis
 
haymarket said:
Good analysis and I tend to agree. One interesting factor is how well the GOP primary voter will respond to him. Obama had a built in Democratic constituency in 2008 because the vast majority of African Americans vote Democratic. Cain - as a Republican - cannot tap into that market with the ease the Obama did once he was ableto change the narrative that he could not beat Hillary.
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That doesn't worry me at all. What does worry me is Palin. I'm thinking she may get in after all. If she does many of her original base may leave Cain for her. I won't, but many will. I think he can beat Romney easily otherwise. But if all those tea party votes get split up, does that just hand it to Romney?
 
Barbbtx said:
That doesn't worry me at all. What does worry me is Palin. I'm thinking she may get in after all. If she does many of her original base may leave Cain for her. I won't, but many will. I think he can beat Romney easily otherwise. But if all those tea party votes get split up, does that just hand it to Romney?
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The only TEA members that will split are the fake one and then they can become pure and decent again.,
 
xpiher said:
I live in IN and I don't see how a story of redemption and love can be viewed by the Christan Right as a negative.
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Yes, I remember how fond the Christian right was of Bill & Hlliary that they did not seperate over his infidelity. It was very heart warming, just a story of redemtion and love! :sun
 
Catawba said:
Yes, I remember how fond the Christian right was of Bill & Hlliary that they did not seperate over his infidelity. It was very heart warming, just a story of redemtion and love! :sun
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Oh my God. That's not even similar. The Daniels is more like a love story. Things Bill Clinton did, while president, were just...... disgusting.
 
Barbbtx said:
Oh my God. That's not even similar. The Daniels is more like a love story. Things Bill Clinton did, while president, were just...... disgusting.
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Only because she was ugly.
 
samsmart said:
Experience in being the executive of a company is far different from being the executive of a government. For one, CEOs usually don't have to worry about checks and balances. For another, they tend to make policy as well as execute it, while the legislature has the power to make policy.
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Seems like Cain did a lot of checks and balances and making and executing policy, if you read the link I posted.
I wonder how voting present makes someone ready to be president. Oh..it didn't :)
 
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