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  • Mitt Romney

    41 15.30%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    9 3.36%
  • John Huntsman

    0 0%
  • Mitch Daniels

    15 5.60%
  • Sarah Palin

    4 1.49%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 2.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    2 0.75%
  • Donald Trump

    3 1.12%
  • Ron Paul

    172 64.18%
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    16 5.97%
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    eh, more the actual interactive and engaged members of the various parties - the literati, the policy and political managers, and then insomniacally engaged (that's us) .


    in general, however, americans (at least profess) to care less about race:

    Gallup: Race not important to voters



    as you can see, about 6% of whites and 2% of blacks were less likely to vote for Obama due to his race, but 5% of whites and 19% of blacks were more likely to vote for him over the issue. as measured by the poll, blacks were more than three times likely to exhibit a racist preference for Obama than whites were against him. So the claim that 'racism' as a political facet is solidly in the Republican camp and solidly anti-black is, in fact, rather the antithesis of the actual extent to which race plays a role in electoral politics.

    so i stand by my claim - overall the left cares more about race than the right does.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Can't speak for the Christian Right because I'm not one, but my issue with Clinton wasn't the infedelity. While I think its incredibly beneficial and preferable to have a President that shows a good example (even if its just outwardly) of morality, its not a large basis for my likes or dislikes of a politician.

    My issue with Clinton was far more the use of his position of power with someone that was a subordinant. Its similar to how I wouldn't expect my boss to be fired if he had an affair with a chick from a bar, but if he got the receptionist to get him a hummer under his desk while at work I'd expect him to get canned. My issues with Clinton and Monica was less about the blowjob itself and more about the who, where, and when the blowjob took place.

    And then you have the whole perjury thing, but that's a seperate issue.

    Admittedly, for the religious right, it likely was much more based around the cheating. But just wanted to give a different veiw point of it from the right.
    I see it as small potatoes compared to committing a country to an indefinite war in Iraq under false pretenses.

    This pretty much sums it up for me: (Warning - Adult language)

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Yeah, see. Will, you know better than that. What did they teach you about absolutes v generalities in college?
    He has to say that. Mitch Daniels is his guy.
    This should be a fun competition once he gets in the race. (if he does) I think Cain's going to surprise everyone. ( well, not everyone) Some of us will just say "told ya so" LOL
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    from cpwill

    so i stand by my claim - overall the left cares more about race than the right does.
    That must explain why the GOP conventions are so woefully lacking in African American participants - they just don't care.

    And it further explains why so few GOP office holders are African Americans - they just don't care.

    And it further explains why so few African Americans are attracted to the GOP ideology and platform - they just don't care.

    And what they do not care about is simple. Whites who run the GOP simply do not care to do anything to make themselves more accessible, more friendly or more acceptable to African Americans. They want it that way and are more comfortable with it that way. They do not care to change.

    So cpwill - your word CARE - fits perfectly here.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I'm all for Herman Cain. Who else am I going to support? Romney is just boring and he isn't very right-wing either. I rather have Obama for another 4 years, so he can feel the effect of his policies. We need someone that people can feel proud about. Ron Paul won't win because he is too old and too idealistic. Tim Pawlenty is also boring and looks like another classical politicians. For instance they interviewed him about the presidential race and he started talking about crisis management. Donald Trump is a joke candidate and Sarah Palin has too much baggage.
    What's this 'we' bit? I'm pretty sure you aren't American. What's your support for him going to involve?

    I think the GOP will end up with a compromise candidate, and I think that will probably be Mitch Daniels with someone a little more moderate, like Pawlenty or Gingrich, as a running mate. I wouldn't put my money on it though, I find US pres campaigns very unpredictable. I certainly won't be supporting anyone.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    I wonder if Obama runs unopposed for the democrat nomination like bush did for his second run.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That must explain why the GOP conventions are so woefully lacking in African American participants - they just don't care.
    perhaps so. we expect our people to be conservatives, we couldn't care less if they are indian, or black, or white, or asian.
    Many Democrats, however,as you point out, care very deeply about these things. which is why I suppose such a larger percentage of them made a racist decision when polled.

    And it further explains why so few GOP office holders are African Americans - they just don't care.
    yup. we don't care what the color of your skin is. Allan West is awesome because he's an incredibly intelligent man who dedicated decades to defending the nation, can speak inspirationally, and is determined along with the rest of us to save the country from the fiscally suicidal status quo. the "omg we got a nice clean black guy and he doesn't speak negro unless he wants to" factor isn't there for us like it was for Harry Reid and friends.

    And it further explains why so few African Americans are attracted to the GOP ideology and platform - they just don't care.
    yup. race-baiting, like demagoguery, works.

    And what they do not care about is simple. Whites who run the GOP simply do not care to do anything to make themselves more accessible, more friendly or more acceptable to African Americans.
    not any more or less so than whites, asians, or anyone else. Content of their Character, I believe, is the phrase for how we look at ourselves and others. but have a good time continuing to group and address people off of the color of their skin.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    [Gotta love Lefty's...here's Cornel West on Obama

    Princeton University professor Cornel West is as much a celebrity as scholar. He also happens to be African-American, and claims to be a friend of Barack Obama.

    Particularly, in a recent interview with Chris Hedges, he refers to Obama as a “black mascot” of Wall Street, then offers a variation that he is a “black puppet” of “corporate plutocrats.” Note the stress on “black” in both slurs. Racial designations are very important to how West views America.

    and....

    Obama, deep Dr. West tells us, “has a certain fear of free black men.” Also, this: “[Obama] feels most comfortable with upper middle-class white and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they want.”

    Rex Murphy: Cornel West’s deep personal grudge against President Obama | Full Comment | National Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    perhaps so. we expect our people to be conservatives, we couldn't care less if they are indian, or black, or white, or asian.
    Many Democrats, however,as you point out, care very deeply about these things. which is why I suppose such a larger percentage of them made a racist decision when polled.



    yup. we don't care what the color of your skin is. Allan West is awesome because he's an incredibly intelligent man who dedicated decades to defending the nation, can speak inspirationally, and is determined along with the rest of us to save the country from the fiscally suicidal status quo. the "omg we got a nice clean black guy and he doesn't speak negro unless he wants to" factor isn't there for us like it was for Harry Reid and friends.



    yup. race-baiting, like demagoguery, works.



    not any more or less so than whites, asians, or anyone else. Content of their Character, I believe, is the phrase for how we look at ourselves and others. but have a good time continuing to group and address people off of the color of their skin.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see it as small potatoes compared to committing a country to an indefinite war in Iraq under false pretenses.]
    I respectfully disagree. If it was provable bush knowingly and purposefully lied, then perhaps. But thats nothing but speculation, not fact. It's un questionable fact that Clinton messed around with a subordinate.

    Ultimately, based on facts not opinion/speculation, Iraq was a policy decision, Monica wasn't. I have am more forgiving of policy mistakes in terms of how much of an issue I have with a president on a personal level rather than ethical issues. Just. My take, I can understand others feeling differently

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    He has to say that. Mitch Daniels is his guy.
    This should be a fun competition once he gets in the race. (if he does) I think Cain's going to surprise everyone. ( well, not everyone) Some of us will just say "told ya so" LOL
    Almost no one knows who Herman Cain is, he's never run for public office. If you ask people who was the CEO of Godfather's Pizza almost no one could answer the question correctly. Recently, he's said he would not have a Muslim in his administration, so he's someshat a bigot.


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