View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

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  • Mitt Romney

    41 15.30%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    9 3.36%
  • John Huntsman

    0 0%
  • Mitch Daniels

    15 5.60%
  • Sarah Palin

    4 1.49%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 2.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    2 0.75%
  • Donald Trump

    3 1.12%
  • Ron Paul

    172 64.18%
  • Other (specify)

    16 5.97%
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What Rev said was entirely sensible. I don't know how you can take something like that, twist it and make it seem like Rev is some kind of dogmatic mouth-watering ideologue. His sentiments are shared by many on all sides.
    Shared sacrifice only works if everyone is sacrificing. Its seems the Michigan the only ones that are sacrificing are small local, poor communities who are being ruled like a corporation.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What Rev said was entirely sensible. I don't know how you can take something like that, twist it and make it seem like Rev is some kind of dogmatic mouth-watering ideologue. His sentiments are shared by many on all sides.
    I only know of one side which shares his sentiments. The Rev himself, by his own admission has said he is a rightist leaning libertarian who also is a tea party participant and admirer.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Shared sacrifice only works if everyone is sacrificing. Its seems the Michigan the only ones that are sacrificing are small local, poor communities who are being ruled like a corporation.
    Add in pensioners and it pretty much is the picture.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Shared sacrifice only works if everyone is sacrificing. Its seems the Michigan the only ones that are sacrificing are small local, poor communities who are being ruled like a corporation.
    The entire state is in shambles. It isn't just the poor, small towns being affected. They have the highest unemployment rate in the country and the largest population decrease since 2000.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Alright, I'm not actually clear on what the Michigan state legislature did and how people responded. Could someone enlighten me?
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The entire state is in shambles. It isn't just the poor, small towns being affected. They have the highest unemployment rate in the country and the largest population decrease since 2000.
    Does that give the governor the right to rule in the manner of a despot?


    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Alright, I'm not actually clear on what the Michigan state legislature did and how people responded. Could someone enlighten me?
    Essentially, Michigan state legislators gave the Governor the authority to dismiss local officials and in their place put a emergency manager with all their powers. The justification is that Michigan is so messed up that it needs to be ran like a corporation.
    Last edited by xpiher; 05-16-11 at 07:25 PM.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Does that give the governor the right to rule in the manner of a despot?
    In what manner?
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    In a race between the candidates listed above, I'd say Pawlenty. "Not very exciting" really isn't strong enough a negative to make up for the other candidates' flaws (Romney's health care thing, Palin's inexperience, etc). Him or Mitch Daniels. Both have their own obstacles to overcome, though. Pawlenty's flip-flop on cap-and-trade is going to leave a lot of people wondering what his principles are, and if he even has any that aren't just whatever he needs to win.

    At this point I'm really hoping for a surprise Paul Ryan candidacy at the last moment or something. The Republicans really failed at giving us much to work with.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    In what manner?
    Read the edit. City managers are appointed by the governor, only answerable to the governor, and has both the power of the local legislature and the executive branch (for the locality)

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Read the edit. City managers are appointed by the governor, only answerable to the governor, and has both the power of the local legislature and the executive branch (for the locality)
    And yet he just managed a huge bipartisan victory by passing a largely leftist budget plan with both houses having a republican majority.

    We don't elect city managers in Texas, either...and I'm not aware of them being responsible to anybody but the city council (slightly variance there).

    Do you have links to the negative effects of this method of governance he has chosen?
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