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  • Mitt Romney

    41 15.30%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    9 3.36%
  • John Huntsman

    0 0%
  • Mitch Daniels

    15 5.60%
  • Sarah Palin

    4 1.49%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 2.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    2 0.75%
  • Donald Trump

    3 1.12%
  • Ron Paul

    172 64.18%
  • Other (specify)

    16 5.97%
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    I've done some reading today and thus far I'd say that a Cain/Daniels or Daniels/Cain ticket might be my preference, if I could have it my way.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    I say again, the GOP should put up Red Forman/Archie Bunker.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I've done some reading today and thus far I'd say that a Cain/Daniels or Daniels/Cain ticket might be my preference, if I could have it my way.
    I think the VP candidate this year will be a another no name with charisma. Cain seems to only spew talking points, thats not charisma, and Daniels doesn't have it. Besides, it would be better for Cain to be on Daniels economic team than for him to be president from a conservative point of view. I still question both of their commitment to small government in the economy considering both support the existence of the FED and both supported TARP et al.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How so? You have in all your posting been FAIL at answering this one simple question.
    You pose questions - get direct answers then you want bait and troll to make it about you so you can complain that I am making it about you.

    You ask "how so"?

    here is what the summary of Hoffer's TRUE BELIEVER concept said

    Hoffer argues that all mass movements such as fascism, communism, and religion spread by promising a glorious future.
    the right wing tea party/right libertarian/republican subscribes exactly to this belief. If only we can adopt their values, their beliefs, their ideas, their cures for what ails us then American can be saved from leftist socialism/communism/bolshevism/progressivism/trotskyism/leninism and liberalism. The American future is bright if only we adopt their belief system.


    To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals.
    Shared sacrifice is the mantra here in Michigan coming from the lips of right wing Republican True Believers who have taken over the state legislature and have passed many laws taking away peoples rights. On a national level we hear from the Right how such programs as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are going to have to be pared back or even axed completely - more sacrifice for the masses so that the greater good can be achieved

    To do so, mass movements need to glorify the past and devalue the present.
    Just read threads here and its evident how many of the believers of the right are obsessed with the good old days of the late 1700's and their sainted Founding Fathers. The days before the 20th century and the evil progressive movement and the even more hated New Deal of FDR and routinely demonized in favor of the good old days of the Gilded Age or even further back in the heyday of the tri-corner hat. The present is looked at as the nadir of America and we are in danger of the destruction of the nation according to the True Believers of the right.

    Mass movements appeal to frustrated people who are dissatisfied with their current state, but are capable of a strong belief in the future.
    This is easily seen by the appeal of folks like Beck and Limbaugh and their worshipping acolytes who hate what America now is and feel that they are no longer valued or important.

    As well, mass movements appeal to people who want to escape a flawed self by creating an imaginary self and joining a collective whole. Some categories of people who may be attracted to mass movements include poor people, misfits, and people who feel thwarted in their endeavors.
    tea party anyone?

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I say again, the GOP should put up Red Forman/Archie Bunker.
    You know what would be even better?

    My foot, in your ass.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You pose questions - get direct answers then you want bait and troll to make it about you so you can complain that I am making it about you.

    You ask "how so"?
    If you think I am baiting and trolling you, report me. Last and only warning.



    here is what the summary of Hoffer's TRUE BELIEVER concept said



    the right wing tea party/right libertarian/republican subscribes exactly to this belief. If only we can adopt their values, their beliefs, their ideas, their cures for what ails us then American can be saved from leftist socialism/communism/bolshevism/progressivism/trotskyism/leninism and liberalism. The American future is bright if only we adopt their belief system.
    How so, specifically, show me exactly by example how this is how everyone who is not a liberal and thinks like you, is. Please, by all means.,





    Shared sacrifice is the mantra here in Michigan coming from the lips of right wing Republican True Believers who have taken over the state legislature and have passed many laws taking away peoples rights. On a national level we hear from the Right how such programs as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are going to have to be pared back or even axed completely - more sacrifice for the masses so that the greater good can be achieved
    So what compromises were union thugs and idiots willing to make? None. Now they want to whine when the numbers need to match? Please, sacrifices need to be made, we cant continue to pay for that which we can not afford.


    Just read threads here and its evident how many of the believers of the right are obsessed with the good old days of the late 1700's and their sainted Founding Fathers. The days before the 20th century and the evil progressive movement and the even more hated New Deal of FDR and routinely demonized in favor of the good old days of the Gilded Age or even further back in the heyday of the tri-corner hat. The present is looked at as the nadir of America and we are in danger of the destruction of the nation according to the True Believers of the right.
    I don't see any references in this thread to founding fathers, etc as you claimed, Perhaps you are exhibiting some of what you accuse these bogeyman of.




    This is easily seen by the appeal of folks like Beck and Limbaugh and their worshipping acolytes who hate what America now is and feel that they are no longer valued or important.
    Limbaugh and beck hate America? It's not valued or important?

    Can you link to these absurd claims...



    tea party anyone?

    You asked - I delivered point by point.

    no, you failed to deliver, you repeated the same empty rhetoric you always do.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    from the Rev

    If you think I am baiting and trolling you, report me. Last and only warning.
    Warning? From you? What exactly are you warning me about and in what capacity are you acting?

    And if I fail to heed your last and only warning - what will you do next to me?
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You know what would be even better?

    My foot, in your ass.
    That's how we should talk to the terrorists. None of this hippie counterinsurgency BS.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

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    Please, sacrifices need to be made, we cant continue to pay for that which we can not afford.
    from the summary of beliefs of the TRUE BELIEVER

    To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals.
    thanks rev for a picture perfect illustration of the True Believer. Combine that with your own previous admissions to being a tea party follower, and a rightist libertarian, and its a signed and sealed confession.

    thanks again.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    from the Rev



    from the summary of beliefs of the TRUE BELIEVER



    thanks rev for a picture perfect illustration of the True Believer. Combine that with your own previous admissions to being a tea party follower, and a rightist libertarian, and its a signed and sealed confession.

    thanks again.
    What Rev said was entirely sensible. I don't know how you can take something like that, twist it and make it seem like Rev is some kind of dogmatic mouth-watering ideologue. His sentiments are shared by many on all sides.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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