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  • Mitt Romney

    41 15.30%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    9 3.36%
  • John Huntsman

    0 0%
  • Mitch Daniels

    15 5.60%
  • Sarah Palin

    4 1.49%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 2.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    2 0.75%
  • Donald Trump

    3 1.12%
  • Ron Paul

    172 64.18%
  • Other (specify)

    16 5.97%
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    The only one who has a fighting chance to beat Obama is Romney and he is unacceptable to the True Believers of the right who tend to have disproportionate voting power in GOP primaries. The only real question is will it be somebody who can make it a race where the rest of the GOP ticket has a chance to survive like 2008 or will it be Goldwater 64 all over again?
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    On that we'll have to disagree. Romney would be a disaster against Obama, for the mere reason that he would be unable to make a convincing case as to why people should choose him over Obama. His presence on the ticket negates one of the Republican Party's most salient issues - the individual mandate. It makes it difficult to take seriously their most salient issue - the need for entitlement reform and spending decreases. The republican party wouldn't turn out for him - just like they didn't turn out for McCain; independents would waffle, and the result would be the same as 2008. A dispirited Republican party loses.

    I think you are making the mistake of assuming that your views are somehow representative of the general center of the American body politic. In fact that is precisely opposite of the case (no shame in it, but that's the reality):







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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    There is no one view that represents the majority of the American people other than most want what they see as best for them and for the nation as a whole. Most see their self interest as dovetailing with the broader national interest. That is probably human nature.

    Most people are not ideological. That puts them in opposition to the current republican party which has become very ideological.

    Further, large numbers of people hold views which are impossible to categorize as liberal or conservative or moderate since they may vary on many different issues and topics. For example, I am very liberal on labor issues and on matters of using government for the betterment of the people. I am very conservative on a topic like the death penalty. I suspect there are lots of people who hold views that place them all over the spectrum. Thus, graphs like the ones you use above are interesting but not very useful in determining who someone will vote for in a presidential election.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    I haven't heard a lot about honesty or true to their confictions, in the candidates we are discussing.
    Personally, I'm rejecting Newt and Romney for those things. I don't trust either of them.
    I know Romney stuck by his HC plan and should get a point for that I guess, but honestly they both come off sleazy to me.
    I want a president who says what he means and isn't going to change his mind tomorrow.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I haven't heard a lot about honesty or true to their confictions, in the candidates we are discussing.
    Personally, I'm rejecting Newt and Romney for those things. I don't trust either of them.
    I know Romney stuck by his HC plan and should get a point for that I guess, but honestly they both come off sleazy to me.
    I want a president who says what he means and isn't going to change his mind tomorrow.

    Sometimes changing your mind is a good thing..anyone that can realize what they once thought to be right is now wrong and changes is fine with me.
    I give credit to Newt Gingrich it took courage to come out against ryans plan. If he believes that and says it, good for him. He has to know that cant help him in the primary.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The only one who has a fighting chance to beat Obama is Romney and he is unacceptable to the True Believers of the right who tend to have disproportionate voting power in GOP primaries. The only real question is will it be somebody who can make it a race where the rest of the GOP ticket has a chance to survive like 2008 or will it be Goldwater 64 all over again?
    I'm not a true believer. Hell, I even support public health care (not Obamacare) and supported Obama in 2008.

    However, Romney would be a disaster because he is a RINO. He is just pretending. Why would I vote for someone who doesn't believe in what he is saying and is boring as well? For instance he is in reality liberal towards immigration. He is pro-choice and helped fund abortions. His health care reform looks awfully similar to Obamacare. He is supposedly against gay rights now, but has previously been a big supporter. Some of these opinions, I don't mind but the biggest problem is that he is not honest. I don't want a dishonest President. However, he will fail against Obama like McCain did and he will make the Republican party look weak.

    I believe in Herman Cain, and I hope he will moderate himself somewhat before the election. Even if he lose, he will still give Obama a tough match.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I'm not a true believer. Hell, I even support public health care (not Obamacare) and supported Obama in 2008.

    However, Romney would be a disaster because he is a RINO. He is just pretending. Why would I vote for someone who doesn't believe in what he is saying and is boring as well? For instance he is in reality liberal towards immigration. He is pro-choice and helped fund abortions. His health care reform looks awfully similar to Obamacare. He is supposedly against gay rights now, but has previously been a big supporter. Some of these opinions, I don't mind but the biggest problem is that he is not honest. I don't want a dishonest President. However, he will fail against Obama like McCain did and he will make the Republican party look weak.

    I believe in Herman Cain, and I hope he will moderate himself somewhat before the election. Even if he lose, he will still give Obama a tough match.
    I wouldn't want to see Herman Cain moderate himself. The fact that he is stead fast to his convictions is what appeals to me. However, whatever his convictions, a president still has congress to check him. Also, Cain isn't one to go into things lightly and on his own. He will surround himself with good people as he has done in his business career. This will be especially handy on foreign affairs. His expertise lies in making us a prosperous nation again.
    The way Cain was so upset about this administration going against the will of the people on Obamacare, tells me he won't be forcing anything down our throats.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I wouldn't want to see Herman Cain moderate himself. The fact that he is stead fast to his convictions is what appeals to me. However, whatever his convictions, a president still has congress to check him. Also, Cain isn't one to go into things lightly and on his own. He will surround himself with good people as he has done in his business career. This will be especially handy on foreign affairs. His expertise lies in making us a prosperous nation again.
    The way Cain was so upset about this administration going against the will of the people on Obamacare, tells me he won't be forcing anything down our throats.
    I understand that. If I was more conservative, I would want that to happen either.

    However, it is important that he moderate himself somewhat. He needs to appeal to a larger segment of society and not offend moderates who may believe in public health care or in abortion.

    Also, his power over Congress is dependant on his likability. If Democrats despise him, like republicans do with Obama. Then they will use every second to work against him and no one but republicans will mind. If he has a larger base, then democrats can't work against him because people won't accept it.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The only one who has a fighting chance to beat Obama is Romney and he is unacceptable to the True Believers of the right who tend to have disproportionate voting power in GOP primaries. The only real question is will it be somebody who can make it a race where the rest of the GOP ticket has a chance to survive like 2008 or will it be Goldwater 64 all over again?


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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Who are these "true believers" you repeat ad nauseum?
    Republican/tea party/rightist-libertarian types who have consumed massive quantities of the right wing ideological kool-aid ..... the believe what they believe because they want to believe it in much the same way that people accept religious doctrine
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