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Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

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Catawba said:
Then the Republican mainstream has moved even further right from center than I feared.
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Ya got something against Nugent? :) Seems every republican or conservative politician in the world likes him. Well, at least a few. He was on Huckabee the night he made his big announcement that he wasn't running.
 
Barbbtx said:
Oh my God. That's not even similar. The Daniels is more like a love story. Things Bill Clinton did, while president, were just...... disgusting.
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How is getting a BJ worse than leaving your spouse and four children and running off to another state with another man? Personally, I don't think either affected the work of the official, but I don't remember that being the reaction from the Christian-right.
 
Barbbtx said:
That doesn't worry me at all. What does worry me is Palin. I'm thinking she may get in after all. If she does many of her original base may leave Cain for her. I won't, but many will. I think he can beat Romney easily otherwise. But if all those tea party votes get split up, does that just hand it to Romney?
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Barb, Im of the opinion there isnt as many teaparty votes as you think. I may very well be wrong but I believe most republican voters are more moderate and its just the teaparty is making the most noise. Alot of the teaparty initial support <babyboomers> are no longer on board.
 
lpast said:
Barb, Im of the opinion there isnt as many teaparty votes as you think. I may very well be wrong but I believe most republican voters are more moderate and its just the teaparty is making the most noise. Alot of the teaparty initial support <babyboomers> are no longer on board.
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20-30% of republicans are TEA, 20-30% ore big gov repubs.
 
Barbbtx said:
No, it was disgusting because he was the president and it was the oval office. Totally disrespectful.
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No it would have been much better for him to have left his wife and daughter and ran off to another state with Monica wouldn't it?
 
haymarket said:
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Oh how incorrect that statement is. A bunch of angry white folks who feel this is no longer the America they remember are voting for other angry white folks who feel this is no longer the America they remember. That is 100% group identity voting.
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Has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with the road to socialism and bankruptsy we're on.
 
lpast said:
Barb, Im of the opinion there isnt as many teaparty votes as you think. I may very well be wrong but I believe most republican voters are more moderate and its just the teaparty is making the most noise. Alot of the teaparty initial support <babyboomers> are no longer on board.
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You are correct. I saw reports showing a drastic decline at tea party rallies. They used to numberin the thousands at rallies, and now they number in the hundreds and sometimes in the tens.
 
haymarket said:
When Cain wins the GOP nomination, come back and strut your stuff. Until that happens you can sing another verse of "White On White".
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Now you're sounding like to prove we aren't racist, we have to vote for him because he is black. Wouldn't that be racist? sorry, if Cain wins it'll be because we had faith in him to do a good job. If he loses the reason will be because we didn't think he was the right one for the job. Only the left would read anything else into it. It sure would be nice to get the race card off the table but people aren't going to vote for him because of that.
 
Catawba said:
How is getting a BJ worse than leaving your spouse and four children and running off to another state with another man? Personally, I don't think either affected the work of the official, but I don't remember that being the reaction from the Christian-right.
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He was the president. It was in the oval office. We were talking about oral sex in the news twenty four seven. Kids grew up thinking that wasn't sex and it was ok for the president..so...it's no big deal. Just my humble opinion. Parents divorcing and getting back together is nothing. Is it just the fact that it was her that left him with the kids? Is that why it's even a story?
 
xpiher said:
20-30% of republicans are TEA, 20-30% ore big gov repubs.
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Whats the rest of them lol and where did you get that gem of information
 
Catawba said:
You are correct. I saw reports showing a drastic decline at tea party rallies. They used to numberin the thousands at rallies, and now they number in the hundreds and sometimes in the tens.
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I dont know what they rallies number now...all I can say is before nov 2nd election I attended personally 3 teaparty rallies in my area...there was a large crowd, how many I have no clue. But they were all grayhaired, polyester and cotton shorted sandaled old farts that didnt have rolexs and gucci tshirts on and 500.00 smartphones...they were average middle class working class...then it suddenly morphed <my opinion> I call it the Im entitled to mOAR class and Im not paying any taxs either class
 
lpast said:
Barb, Im of the opinion there isnt as many teaparty votes as you think. I may very well be wrong but I believe most republican voters are more moderate and its just the teaparty is making the most noise. Alot of the teaparty initial support <babyboomers> are no longer on board.
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There's been nothing big to rally against. Doesn't have anything to do with anyone dropping off. As long as we have a congress and president who insist on growing government and spending spending spending, the tea party will stay strong. Just because we're sitting home or going about our lives, doesn't mean we aren't keeping up with what is going on in Washington. We will vote accordingly. You can be moderate and still want to cut spending and get our fiscal house in order.
 
xpiher said:
20-30% of republicans are TEA, 20-30% ore big gov repubs.
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what is a big gov republican? As far as I know, none of them want big government or want to keep growing government.
 
Barbbtx said:
He was the president. It was in the oval office. We were talking about oral sex in the news twenty four seven. Kids grew up thinking that wasn't sex and it was ok for the president..so...it's no big deal. Just my humble opinion. Parents divorcing and getting back together is nothing. Is it just the fact that it was her that left him with the kids? Is that why it's even a story?
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And presidents are not subject to the same human frailties that would make a wife and mother leave her husband and 4 daughters for another man?


Daniels says his family is scared ‘to death’ of 2012 scrutiny

BTW, I don't remember Clinton advertising it either. Actually, it took one hell of a lot of taxpayers money to bring that information to the public.

I think we need to be more tolerant of peoples mistakes in life and also realize that neither of these incidents, if not made public, affect the ability of the office holder to carry out his or her duties. Now I am not promoting lewd and lascivious behavior by our representatives (or their spouses), but on the other hand we shouldn't crucify a person male or female for a weak moment in their life.
 
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Barbbtx said:
what is a big gov republican? As far as I know, none of them want big government or want to keep growing government.
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Then apparently you missed the twelve years the Repbulicans were in charge of Congress and didn't cut the big government down to size, but rather grew it by trillions.
 
Barbbtx said:
You can be moderate and still want to cut spending and get our fiscal house in order.
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Of course, that is what liberals want as well, we just have different priorities of where those cuts should be made. If each side was willing to compromise a little we might actually make some significant cuts.
 
Barbbtx said:
There's been nothing big to rally against. Doesn't have anything to do with anyone dropping off. As long as we have a congress and president who insist on growing government and spending spending spending, the tea party will stay strong. Just because we're sitting home or going about our lives, doesn't mean we aren't keeping up with what is going on in Washington. We will vote accordingly. You can be moderate and still want to cut spending and get our fiscal house in order.
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I think your wrong and your right barb...there has been a drop off in a certain demographic, Paul Ryans own town hall meetings shows that. Your also right about a congress and President that spends and spends...well thats a two way street barb...the republican senate just voted to keep on keeping on giving billions to the oil industry. I know the argument, take it from everyone not just them...I say NO to that...Big Oil is just about the only industry in this country that has no competition from outside or within itself. We are all hostages to gas and heating oil. So there is something to be said that the left is right that the GOP wants to pick and choose what big spending and govt is kept...truth is barb they BOTH piss away our money, it just depends which toilet you prefer where its going
 
Catawba said:
I think it has absolutly nothing to do with anythng related to the office, but then I am not a member of the Christian right. You have to understand I live in the bible belt and saw first hand the reaction of the Christian right to Clinton's BJ and the John Edwards affair, so that is why I think its possible those same types might think it is immoral to leave your husband and 4 kids to run off to California with another man. Of course they eventually came back together for the kids, which I think is a positive thing, but the Christian right may not look at it that way.
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I"m a member of the Christian Right - I'm telling you, it only makes Daniels look better, not worse. had he run away it would be a problem for him; but this is a story of Daniels who is able to forgive and remarry - reinforcing the importance of the teachings of Jesus and the family. both of those play pretty big in Christian right circles.
 
Catawba said:
How is getting a BJ worse than leaving your spouse and four children and running off to another state with another man? Personally, I don't think either affected the work of the official, but I don't remember that being the reaction from the Christian-right.
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Can't speak for the Christian Right because I'm not one, but my issue with Clinton wasn't the infedelity. While I think its incredibly beneficial and preferable to have a President that shows a good example (even if its just outwardly) of morality, its not a large basis for my likes or dislikes of a politician.

My issue with Clinton was far more the use of his position of power with someone that was a subordinant. Its similar to how I wouldn't expect my boss to be fired if he had an affair with a chick from a bar, but if he got the receptionist to get him a hummer under his desk while at work I'd expect him to get canned. My issues with Clinton and Monica was less about the blowjob itself and more about the who, where, and when the blowjob took place.

And then you have the whole perjury thing, but that's a seperate issue.

Admittedly, for the religious right, it likely was much more based around the cheating. But just wanted to give a different veiw point of it from the right.
 
Catawba said:
He might run into a problem with his own "family values" party with this, but if they decide to overlook it since he is one of their own, I don't think it would be a problem in the general election.
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It would help him, not hurt him.
 
cpwill said:
he won't win. but nobody cares about his race
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Yeah, see. Will, you know better than that. What did they teach you about absolutes v generalities in college?
 
Barbbtx said:
That doesn't worry me at all. What does worry me is Palin. I'm thinking she may get in after all. If she does many of her original base may leave Cain for her. I won't, but many will. I think he can beat Romney easily otherwise. But if all those tea party votes get split up, does that just hand it to Romney?
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Won't happen. If he gets that far, she won't stand a chance, IMO. Too much ammo aimed in her general direction. All of us trumpeting about how Sarah has no business in the White House will be seconded by Cain's supporters, and it'll be all over with.
 
Catawba said:
Yes, I remember how fond the Christian right was of Bill & Hlliary that they did not seperate over his infidelity. It was very heart warming, just a story of redemtion and love! :sun
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HIS infidelity. He was the president. It was his bad. Mitch doesn't have that baggage. He took his wife back. He's not the bad guy, but he would be the guy that was running.
 
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