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  • Mitt Romney

    41 15.30%
  • Tim Pawlenty

    9 3.36%
  • John Huntsman

    0 0%
  • Mitch Daniels

    15 5.60%
  • Sarah Palin

    4 1.49%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 2.24%
  • Michele Bachmann

    2 0.75%
  • Donald Trump

    3 1.12%
  • Ron Paul

    172 64.18%
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    16 5.97%
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This will be fun!!! Let's see if we can get a moderator to verify and keep track of our bet in case one of us should try to weasel out of it after the election, K?
    If he doesn't win the nomination (which he will) I'll even start my punishment early. It couldn't be any worse than the fat white butt with glasses avatar liblady gave me for a month. LOL
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    I'm all for Herman Cain. Who else am I going to support? Romney is just boring and he isn't very right-wing either. I rather have Obama for another 4 years, so he can feel the effect of his policies. We need someone that people can feel proud about. Ron Paul won't win because he is too old and too idealistic. Tim Pawlenty is also boring and looks like another classical politicians. For instance they interviewed him about the presidential race and he started talking about crisis management. Donald Trump is a joke candidate and Sarah Palin has too much baggage.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I'm all for Herman Cain. Who else am I going to support? Romney is just boring and he isn't very right-wing either. I rather have Obama for another 4 years, so he can feel the effect of his policies. We need someone that people can feel proud about. Ron Paul won't win because he is too old and too idealistic. Tim Pawlenty is also boring and looks like another classical politicians. For instance they interviewed him about the presidential race and he started talking about crisis management. Donald Trump is a joke candidate and Sarah Palin has too much baggage.
    I agree with a good portion of your post, but I would not vote for Obama over a dog turd.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I agree with a good portion of your post, but I would not vote for Obama over a dog turd.
    Ok this isn't so much a comment to this post but more about your sig :

    Herman Cain:"I have two weaknesses that I know of, that I'm going to admit. One is, I'm not very good with political correctness. I kind of tell it like it is. And secondly, I don't pander real well."

    Look at just this quote :
    - That I'm going to admit : "I know I've got a ton more 'weaknesses' but most of those would get me thrown in jail."
    - "I kind of tell it like it is" : "I'm so hard that I kinda feel bad when I have to sugarcoat"
    - and then the full reversal on the previous part : "I don't pander real well"

    Oh I can't wait for another walking contradiction to come around.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Cain's not afraid of the Unions. He's the only one who went to WI to stand with Scott Walker during the protests. He told people during his speech. Walker is not trying to bust up the Unions, he's trying to save Wisconsin.
    He went to Wi to give a speech? Well good for him - that shows positive political instincts and a willingness to be in the fight. But he was there to support Walker... and what Walker took a month to pull off? Mitch Daniels did that his very first day in office.

    I don't think any of our candidates (with the possible exception of Romney) are going to be afraid of the unions - it's pretty much accepted at this point that they are merely an extension of the Democrat Party, most especially the public ones. The question is; this is their make or break year, and they are going to spend amazing amounts of cash on it. They will put their 2008 spending (which was massive) to shame - because they know a republican congress and white house is their death knell. can the candidate unify the party and the base and the independents enough to stand up to that.

    my fear (and don't get me wrong, I like him) is that Cain cannot, simply because he lacks the political experience. Too many parts of the party (including myself) will support him.... mostly as a far better alternative to Obama. We've seen over the last four years what happens when someone with no experience get's into the White House, and while I would hope his (impressive) corporate experience would partially negate that.... I wouldn't be thrilled about repeating it. And I think there are many like me (folks usually do); and so I think a Cain Candidacy would put us in a weaker position vis-a-vie what we need to overcome the massive push that is coming.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Cain as a Veep, I guess. That would capitalize his speaking ability, and put him in a position where he can be used by the President to attack domestic issues - he would be powerful spearheading the effort to create jobs in this country. But I would be uncomfortable with him as The Candidate.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Since this is who do you think will, not who you want to, I will go with Romney

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    even after he shot his campaign in the face by doubling down on the individual mandate?

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    my fear (and don't get me wrong, I like him) is that Cain cannot, simply because he lacks the political experience. Too many parts of the party (including myself) will support him.... mostly as a far better alternative to Obama. We've seen over the last four years what happens when someone with no experience get's into the White House, and while I would hope his (impressive) corporate experience would partially negate that.... I wouldn't be thrilled about repeating it. And I think there are many like me (folks usually do); and so I think a Cain Candidacy would put us in a weaker position vis-a-vie what we need to overcome the massive push that is coming.
    I don't think the reason Obama failed was because he had no political eperience. He failed because he ran a platform on Hope and Change, when he actually wanted left-wing politics. He is also quite arrogant and you can see that he is pretending.

    Republicans need a good speaker to win the presidental race and to beat Obama. Herman Cain is a good speaker. Mitt Romney is not a good speaker and he is RINO. He just changed his positions to get more votes. He will be an embarrasment for the republican party, because he will make the GOP look weak. Herman Cain, even if he lose will give Obama a tough match.
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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i don't even think it's a question of beating Obama. I think in 2012 it's a question of whether or not we can beat the unions.
    Beat the unions? LOL thats rich. You do realize Republicans are going to outspend everyone again right. Citizens United is the worst decision the Supreme Court has made in at least 50-60years.

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    Re: Who do you think will win the Republican nomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Beat the unions? LOL thats rich. You do realize Republicans are going to outspend everyone again right. Citizens United is the worst decision the Supreme Court has made in at least 50-60years.
    it's rather entertaining that you would link those two things - given that the Citizens United case extended the exact same rights and privileges to unions as it did to corporations (both had previously been limited in their speech), and that unions are the biggest spenders in our elections.

    OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting keeps track of donations, you may be interested in seeing who the big donors are for the last 10 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon
    I don't think the reason Obama failed was because he had no political eperience. He failed because he ran a platform on Hope and Change, when he actually wanted left-wing politics. He is also quite arrogant and you can see that he is pretending.
    I agree the president is a bit narcissistic. However, you can't use that to discount his lack of experience. The man really does appear to have thought that things would work in reality they way they do in his speeches - he made a whole series of promises that any experienced executive would have known were beyond his ability to ensure (Gitmo is perhaps the classic but in no way the only example). His response to every crises - without fail - has been to appoint a commission of experts / wait a long time / give a speech. He turned over comprehensive reform and spending efforts to Congress, apparently either unaware or uncaring that the political incentives of congresscritters are to take comprehensive measures and turn them into giant boondoggles; which left him defending a health care program that was in serious ways a contradiction of what he had campaigned on and a stimulus program that was nothing but a grab-bag of Democratic Pork Goodies. As much heat as Obama has taken, he was basically co-opted for some time by Pelosi and Reid, who effectively ran Democrat domestic policy. Cain is right to point out that many experienced politicians have been part of the problem. But the response to that is not inexperienced politicians - because the experienced ones who are part of the problem know the system, know the rules, and will run circles around you.

    Republicans need a good speaker to win the presidental race and to beat Obama. Herman Cain is a good speaker. Mitt Romney is not a good speaker and he is RINO. He just changed his positions to get more votes. He will be an embarrasment for the republican party, because he will make the GOP look weak. Herman Cain, even if he lose will give Obama a tough match.
    Cain would be very entertaining to watch - he was a very effective voice against Clinton's "Hillarycare" and he has only sharpened his edge since then. And I agree that Romney is more likely to lose than people give him credit for - the base simply will not turn out for him, as they didn't for McCain. The one position he's willing to stick to (the individual mandate) is the worst one of all the bunch to choose; and he will look Rino-ish and weak. If Romney is the candidate, despite the importance I place on defeating Obama, I will seriously consider voting for a third party (of which I am sure there will be one).

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