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Should we stop purchasing of China's commodities?

Should we stop purchasing of China's commodities?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • No

    Votes: 15 68.2%

  • I dunno

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Alfons

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Cheep manufacturing in China cost us millions of our working places and destroying of our countries, maybe we should stop purchasing of China's commodities, I am right, thoughts?BTW I do not talk about stealing of our technologies by China.
 
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So do you support a socialist economy that restricts companies from outsourcing? I don't like that jobs are going to China, but the fact is that something might cost $10 to produce in the US while it costs $2 to produce it in China and have it shipped here. It's how free market capitalism works.
 
digsbe said:
So do you support a socialist economy that restricts companies from outsourcing? I don't like that jobs are going to China, but the fact is that something might cost $10 to produce in the US while it costs $2 to produce it in China and have it shipped here. It's how free market capitalism works.
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You can not compete with socialists with capitalists methods, you will always lost.It is not "free market", but a giving away our technologies, welfare and future to a cunningly communist country.It is a crime against our people to give everything China for nothing.
 
No, manufacturing is simply not an area in which the United States has a comparative advantage. Our comparative advantages are in ideas, intellectual property, professional services, and the like. International trade is a very positive thing, for both the US and China.
 
Yes let's let drunk union people make all of our products...that's the ticket.
 
Kandahar said:
No, manufacturing is simply not an area in which the United States has a comparative advantage. Our comparative advantages are in ideas, intellectual property, professional services, and the like. International trade is a very positive thing, for both the US and China.
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HaHaHa,

I lived in NYC and CA, look how many Chinese are there, sure all US - Knowledge and Know - How will go to China, we give away everything we have for NOTHING, only for fine share courses and for bribes to fat cats.
 
Alfons said:
Cheep manufacturing in China cost us millions of our working places and destroying of our countries, maybe we should stop purchasing of China's commodities, I am right, thoughts?BTW I do not talk about stealing of our technologies by China.
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If we can then sure. Any one calling themselves a patriotic American should be against outsourcing in the first. Anyone who has ever bashed communist dictatorships should be appalled by the fact our elected officials have sold our country out to Chinese just so they can continue sticking their tongues up the asses of businessmen to toss their salad. The idea that the US can compete with a country that pays its workers a $120 a month and with no work and environmental safety laws if ****en laughable.

washingtonpost.com: Chinese Workers Pay for Wal-Mart's Low Prices
SHENZHEN, China -- Inside the factory, amid clattering machinery and clouds of sawdust, men without earplugs or protective goggles feed wood into screaming electric saws, making cabinets for stereo speakers. Women hunch over worktables, many hands bandaged and few covered by gloves, pressing transistors into circuit boards.

Most of the 2,100 workers here are poor migrants from the countryside who have come to this industrial hub in southern China for jobs that pay about $120 a month. A sign on the wall reminds them of their expendability in a nation with hundreds of millions of surplus workers: "If you don't work hard today, tomorrow you'll have to try hard to look for a job."
 
digsbe said:
So do you support a socialist economy that restricts companies from outsourcing? I don't like that jobs are going to China, but the fact is that something might cost $10 to produce in the US while it costs $2 to produce it in China and have it shipped here. It's how free market capitalism works.
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Capital has historically migrated to lowest cost of labor for consumer goods, even within the US. Some Americans are having problems understanding their skill sets no longer have market demand in a global economy that provides the same end products without furnishing mostly uneducated workers with what Americans consider a deserved standard of living. So, as with this thread, they try and find someone, something else to blame for their circumstances. Different ideologies are always an easy target.
 
Alfons said:
Cheep manufacturing in China cost us millions of our working places and destroying of our countries, maybe we should stop purchasing of China's commodities, I am right, thoughts?BTW I do not talk about stealing of our technologies by China.
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I wouldn't stop it but I would instead add heavy tariffs evening the field perhaps even to a degree that goods here would be made cheaper to purchase.
 
Yeah, Americans don't need clothes, or shoes, or TV's, ovens, etc. They should just stop buying Chinese products so that all the companies that sell them can go bankrupt, adding millions to the unemployed line, and when they lose their houses they won't even have cardboard boxes to sleep in, 'cause they're made in China.
 
pretty much that. everyone tempted to vote yes should ask themselves what the effect on the poor would be of a 30% overnight hike in their cost of living.
 
cpwill said:
pretty much that. everyone tempted to vote yes should ask themselves what the effect on the poor would be of a 30% overnight hike in their cost of living.
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Seeing how I grew up poor I can answer that question. Pawnshops,clearance sales,Regular store sales, thrift stores,coupons, flea markets, 2nd hand stores,rent-to-own, Fingerhut and that all time favorite method of obtaining brand new expensive is Lay-A-Away. Pretty much what the poor are already doing today.
 
spud_meister said:
Yeah, Americans don't need clothes, or shoes, or TV's, ovens, etc
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Americans bought clothes,shoes,TVs,ovens and etc before many companies decided to outsource to China.

. They should just stop buying Chinese products so that all the companies that sell them can go bankrupt, adding millions to the unemployed line, and when they lose their houses they won't even have cardboard boxes to sleep in, 'cause they're made in China.
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If you are working for a walmart can you really afford to buy a house?
PayScale - Wal-Mart Stores, Inc Employer Wages, Hourly Wage Rate
 
jamesrage said:
Seeing how I grew up poor I can answer that question. Pawnshops,clearance sales,Regular store sales, thrift stores,coupons, flea markets, 2nd hand stores,rent-to-own, Fingerhut and that all time favorite method of obtaining brand new expensive is Lay-A-Away. Pretty much what the poor are already doing today.
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How much of that is from China though?
 
No, if we did, where would we get the alternative energy technology we will need in the future since China is now the world leader in alternative energy technology? :sun
 
jamesrage said:
Americans bought clothes,shoes,TVs,ovens and etc before many companies decided to outsource to China.
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And now the infrastucture for it has been removed, or changed.


If you are working for a walmart can you really afford to buy a house?
PayScale - Wal-Mart Stores, Inc Employer Wages, Hourly Wage Rate
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What if you work for Apple, or the companied that supplies or maintains Walmart stores, or the PR companies that are dependent upon businesses that are dependent on businesses that import from China, these things don't exist in a vacuum.
 
spud_meister said:
And now the infrastucture for it has been removed, or changed.
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Then the companies that did not sell out to China will expand and or new companies will sprout up to meet the demands of consumers.



What if you work for Apple, or the companied that supplies or maintains Walmart stores, or the PR companies that are dependent upon businesses that are dependent on businesses that import from China, these things don't exist in a vacuum.
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Walmart is not the only store in the US.
 
I'll buy American products as soon as they start becoming less expensive than those from China.

But seeing as the Unions and our asinine "minimum-wage" laws keep that from happening, I'll keep buying China.

Then again I'm being self-interested myself by looking for the cheapest product, so I'm not sure I can necessarily blame the Unions for doing the same.
 
Kandahar said:
Our comparative advantages are in ideas, intellectual property, professional services, and the like. .
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Probably more as 90 % of 'ideas, intellectual property' have been already stolen by China and its countrymens in western companies.
 
jamesrage said:
The idea that the US can compete with a country that pays its workers a $120 a month and with no work and environmental safety laws if ****en laughable.
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Those western politicians who believe this silly fairy-tale are completely idiots ( or too corrupt ), Outsourcing and Globalism must be stopped as soon as possible, otherwise there are only India and China in fifty years as super powers with former Western World degraded to poor Amerikostan and Saudi Europia without any trace of science, education, culture, Christianity and welfare.
 
digsbe said:
So do you support a socialist economy that restricts companies from outsourcing? I don't like that jobs are going to China, but the fact is that something might cost $10 to produce in the US while it costs $2 to produce it in China and have it shipped here. It's how free market capitalism works.
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So in your mind it doesnt matter that our corporations have created a SuperPower thats our greatest threat and will soon over take us economically and who owns a trillion dollars of our debt and who as I write this wants their currency dominant over ours and whos trade deficit with us IS HUGE all so corporations can have the right to strip decent paying jobs from americans for some extra profit....I truly do not understand that mentality...I do understand capitolism but capitolism should not be pure unadulterated greed at the expense of everyone else...and thats precisely whats it become
 
croniccynic said:
Capital has historically migrated to lowest cost of labor for consumer goods, even within the US. Some Americans are having problems understanding their skill sets no longer have market demand in a global economy that provides the same end products without furnishing mostly uneducated workers with what Americans consider a deserved standard of living..
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This situation is not acceptable, the conservatives in the Western World must stop robbery of our future.
 
Baralis said:
I wouldn't stop it but I would instead add heavy tariffs evening the field perhaps even to a degree that goods here would be made cheaper to purchase.
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There are not difference how to stop stealing of our welfare: with tariffs or per law. The Western World must erect huge wall on its borders against cheep commodities from China or India.
 
spud_meister said:
Yeah, Americans don't need clothes, or shoes, or TV's, ovens, etc. They should just stop buying Chinese products so that all the companies that sell them can go bankrupt, adding millions to the unemployed line, and when they lose their houses they won't even have cardboard boxes to sleep in, 'cause they're made in China.
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Maybe fifty thousands sellers will be unemployment, but more as twenty millions Americans will get new jobs in Manufacturing, all jobs which have been lost in the last fifteen years will be back from cheap countries.
 
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