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Should we stop purchasing of China's commodities?

Should we stop purchasing of China's commodities?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 31.8%
  • No

    Votes: 15 68.2%
  • I dunno

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    22
Yes because of human rights issues...
 
pretty much that. everyone tempted to vote yes should ask themselves what the effect on the poor would be of a 30% overnight hike in their cost of living.

If jobs will be back poor can work again and get more as today.Ask somebody in Detroit what he think about China and gobalizm.
 
Yes because of human rights issues...

Alfons wants to have his cake and eat it too. Sadly it doesn't work that way.

You can't force Americans to pay more for their goods just because you think they should.

It's capitalism, deal with it.
 
Yes because of human rights issues...

So-called "human rights" were invented by liberals. A 'human' for those is always sombody who share leftism and hate conservatism.
 
You can't force Americans to pay more for their goods just because you think they should.

Americans will have more jobs, therefore they will have more money to buy cakes, like it was twenty years ago.
 
Probably more as 90 % of 'ideas, intellectual property' have been already stolen by China and its countrymens in western companies.

Yes but the Chinese do not have the same level of talent in applying them as the United States does. There is a reason that most innovative companies are American and not Chinese. The only truly innovative Chinese company that I can think of is Lenovo...and even in that case, they bought all their cool technology from IBM rather than innovating themselves.
 
Globalizm is invention of liberals, socialists and all politically correct do-goodies without brains.

If you support capitalism, then you should support the right of people to buy the best product for the lowest price without interference from the government.
 
We can stop buying from China when we are ready to produce the goods like we used to.


We went from the envy of the world because we made everything and did it better than everyone else and made quality merchandise that lasted and you could have thing repaired cheaper than just buying a new one of what ever.


Then price became the big thing and we moved into a throw away economy, where prices of goods made here were too high and Japan moved in then they were displaced by Chinese goods after Nixon opened the flood gates.


Unions didn't help and but did force prices up and we were off to the races and here we are today, where the Chinese don't invent anything but can copy everything and do it cheap because of near slave labor.


It's going to be hard to recover our place in the world but we can do it but not as long as we have this tax and spend what we don't have on thing we don't need to satisfy an unreasonable need for more junk.
 
So-called "human rights" were invented by liberals. A 'human' for those is always sombody who share leftism and hate conservatism.

Wait so there is no such things as human rights?
Im pretty sure human rights were ideas and rights brought up throughout time..
 
I wouldn't stop it but I would instead add heavy tariffs evening the field perhaps even to a degree that goods here would be made cheaper to purchase.

How would Americans with stagnant wages and a devaluing currency cope with a 25% increase in the cost of their consumer goods? Riots?
 
Globalizm is invention of liberals, socialists and all politically correct do-goodies without brains.


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Seeing how I grew up poor I can answer that question. Pawnshops,clearance sales,Regular store sales, thrift stores,coupons, flea markets, 2nd hand stores,rent-to-own, Fingerhut and that all time favorite method of obtaining brand new expensive is Lay-A-Away. Pretty much what the poor are already doing today.

but much tougher - and certainly with less disposable wealth to do things like save for the future.
 
If you support capitalism, then you should support the right of people to buy the best product for the lowest price without interference from the government.

with a national security exception. trade restrictions on regimes such as Iran, North Korea, and the like can trump the desire to have a smoothly functioning economy.
 
If jobs will be back poor can work again and get more as today.

jobs won't come back - the effect every time that we have restricted trade has been increased unemployment, not job opportunities. the poor are the most vulnerable among us, and typically have the smallest skill sets with which to compete for employment. they will be the first to be let go, and will remain without jobs the longest.

trade wars are wars that government wages on it's own people.

Ask somebody in Detroit what he think about China and gobalizm.

my brother works in a car plant in kentucky and it is bustling. he makes great money and is quite happy with his job. better to ask detroit how unions have worked out for it (you know, those organizations that seek to limit trade?) than China.
 
with a national security exception. trade restrictions on regimes such as Iran, North Korea, and the like can trump the desire to have a smoothly functioning economy.

I agree in national security cases. Certain items, like weapons, should be exempted from free trade, and occasionally sanctions may be necessary. Although I feel that they are too often political with no real security concerns (i.e. Cuba), or they just simply don't work (i.e. interbellum Iraq).

But I'm a strong supporter of free trade in most other cases. The fewer restrictions, tariffs, and quotas on products, the better off the global economy will be.
 
truth. we've lifted how many people out of poverty since globalization? something like 400 million in CHINA ALONE???

Developing Countries Betrayed by EU and USA

...Contrary to popular perception, the 1999 trade meeting in Seattle didn't fall apart because of protests. It collapsed because developing countries faced demands for environmental and labor standards without getting, in return, increased market access. If that happens in Cancun, developing countries may drop out of the trade talks. This would be a shock to the multilateral trade system. And it could end the wave of economic and political liberalization that has made life better in many parts of the world.

During the last century, many developing countries followed inward-looking, anti-liberal policies because they couldn't tap into the world market. In the early 20th century, Latin American countries such as Argentina and Uruguay were among the richest in the world because of their agricultural exports. But in the 1930s, the U.S. and Europe reintroduced protectionism. In turn, Latin American countries turned to import substitution and state-led industrialisation, and to a succession of military dictatorships. Those policies gave Latin America a temporary economic boost after the Second World War -- but the region ran on outdated technology and insufficient market access. In the end, these nations wound up poorer. They accumulated huge debts, which still affect the world economy. And, in Africa and Asia, many states that weren't welcome in the Western markets fell into communism and all its errors.

Some of the same is happening today and many poor countries feel betrayed. They were promised progress if they liberalized. But when they did, they weren't allowed access to the world economy. We dumped our subsidized goods in their countries. But they weren't allowed to export their goods to us. Brazilian President Lula da Silva has said that all his country's efforts and exports are useless "if the rich countries continue to preach free trade on one side and practise protectionism on the other side." South African President Thabo Mbeki has said that there is a real threat of famine in Africa, because of Western protectionism: "It remains an inexcusable shame." ...
 
Cheep manufacturing in China cost us millions of our working places and destroying of our countries, maybe we should stop purchasing of China's commodities, I am right, thoughts?BTW I do not talk about stealing of our technologies by China.

Of course we should. They have very little environmental and labor laws which is how they can make products so cheap. We essentially endorse near slave labor when supporting so much of China's economy. Want green? Want fair labor practices and wages? Buy American. It costs most because we do more. Plus why should we be sending all our money to a commie nation anyway?

I do really think that in our trade agreements and such, there should be consideration of environmental and labor laws and that should be weighed properly into the system.
 
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Of course we should. They have very little environmental and labor laws which is how they can make products so cheap. We essentially endorse near slave labor when supporting so much of China's economy. Want green? Want fair labor practices and wages? Buy American. It costs most because we do more. Plus why should we be sending all our money to a commie nation anyway?

Maybe you can identify some common consumer products still made in the US? And perhaps explain why a citizenry still in recession with stagnated wages and food/energy costs inflated by a devaluing currency would be stupid enough to pay 25% more for its consumer goods just to practice nationalism?
 
Of course we should. They have very little environmental and labor laws which is how they can make products so cheap. We essentially endorse near slave labor when supporting so much of China's economy. Want green? Want fair labor practices and wages? Buy American. It costs most because we do more. Plus why should we be sending all our money to a commie nation anyway?

I do really think that in our trade agreements and such, there should be consideration of environmental and labor laws and that should be weighed properly into the system.

Environmental and labor laws will come with economic development. Let's not forget that we didn't have many environmental/labor laws in THIS country until the first half of the 20th century. That's not because people in the 19th century were immoral or irresponsible; it's because environmental/labor laws are a luxury that countries can afford once they've attained a certain level of economic development.

In China, they'll come with time just as they did here. If we want to help them improve their environmental and labor conditions, the best way to do it is to help them grow their economy as quickly as possible. And encouraging free trade is the best way to do that.
 
Environmental and labor laws will come with economic development. Let's not forget that we didn't have many environmental/labor laws in THIS country until the first half of the 20th century.

Yeah, we saw what happened without them. There is no reason to say that we should operate at this point of human history without them. We need to learn from the mistakes of the past, not relive them.

That's not because people in the 19th century were immoral or irresponsible; it's because environmental/labor laws are a luxury that countries can afford once they've attained a certain level of economic development.

Yes, and now we have data showing why that wasn't a good system to operate under. Making excuses for other countries who want to skirt these laws in order to employ near slave labor isn't benefitial. Now we know, there is no longer a reason to repeat it.

In China, they'll come with time just as they did here. If we want to help them improve their environmental and labor conditions, the best way to do it is to help them grow their economy as quickly as possible. And encouraging free trade is the best way to do that.

A country still disapearing people is going to learn, eh? Well fine, but why do WE have to do business with that then? We went through this already, why should we CONTINUE to support this. This ain't the industrial revolution anymore. And quite honestly, China ain't some poor, backwater country. They got everything they need to free their people, but they don't. Supporting them isn't going to change that. Support of the status quo will not change the status quo.
 
Probably more as 90 % of 'ideas, intellectual property' have been already stolen by China and its countrymens in western companies.

Is China stealing our ideas, or, just having better ideas themselves?


"The results of the recent PISA tests, an international assessment comparing countries around the world in reading, math and science, posted extraordinary scores for students in Shanghai, China. Meanwhile, 15 year olds in the US ranked 23 out of 34 countries!"

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