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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Ron Paul has support, if he were allowed to debate, as a third party candidate, more people would consider him as an electable candidate.
    Whether or not you like it, that is one of the most important things associated with becoming president, the presidential debate.

    Ross Perot garners 18% of the vote during the campaign the he was allowed to debate, the next year, he was barred from debating but still qualified for federal election funds.

    The presidential elections are gamed in favor of the institutional candidates.
    Oh cry me a river, you people advance the same lies every time. No matter how much coverage he was offered, you people keep trying to paint yourselves victims. Well, you are victims, not of the system, but of your cult leader.

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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh cry me a river., you people advance the same lies every time. No matter how much coverage he was offered, you people keep trying to paint yourselves victims. Well, you are victims, not of the system, but of your cult leader.
    I'm not in the cult of Paul.
    I support his beliefs but I don't vote.

    It is a documented fact that the debates are run by the Presidential Debate Commission, that is just a front group for the 2 parties.
    It was founded by the former heads of the DNC and GOP.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh cry me a river, you people advance the same lies every time. No matter how much coverage he was offered, you people keep trying to paint yourselves victims. Well, you are victims, not of the system, but of your cult leader.
    Paul was marginalized during the debates in 2008, just like McCain was in 2000.


    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not in the cult of Paul.
    I support his beliefs but I don't vote.
    Useless.

    It is a documented fact that the debates are run by the Presidential Debate Commission, that is just a front group for the 2 parties.
    It was founded by the former heads of the DNC and GOP.
    I blame the voting system more than anything else. FPTP systems produce 2 party systems.
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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not in the cult of Paul.
    I support his beliefs but I don't vote.

    It is a documented fact that the debates are run by the Presidential Debate Commission, that is just a front group for the 2 parties.
    It was founded by the former heads of the DNC and GOP.
    As if those debates were the only media offers he had at his disposal.

    Even Rush Limbaugh, Beck and Micheal Medved kept open invitations to him, offering uninterrupted spots in their prime-time programs to say his piece.

    He turned down so many...sooooo many free opportunities to give his message without challenge.

    As if we needed more reason to doubt his credibility.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-14-11 at 05:02 PM.

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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Paul was marginalized during the debates in 2008, just like McCain was in 2000.
    As he should have been, as he should be now, and his supporters should be thankful for such treatment as being the abused underdog is a core element of the Loosertarian identity.

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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As he should have been, as he should be now, and his supporters should be thankful for such treatment as being the abused underdog is a core element of the Loosertarian identity.
    Not at all, being for small government is

    If you don't support libertarian polices, you aren't for small government.

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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Not at all, being for small government is

    If you don't support libertarian polices, you aren't for small government.
    Yes, yes, if I don't support the re-legalization of recreational cocaine and meth, then obviously I support the nanny police state

    Only a pure Imperialist would oppose prostitution and the human sex slave trafficking it necessarily brings
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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, yes, if I don't support the re-legalization of recreational cocaine and meth, then obviously I support the the nanny police state
    In a sense, yes you do. Do you believe that more people will take those drugs if they are legal?

    Edit to your edit

    There already is human sex slave trafficking. Guess were it happens more often? In places were its easier to exploit people and in places were prostitution is illegal.
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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Useless.
    Voting is useless.

    "Essentially Rational Irrationality is a term used to describe a state in which a decision, of minimal immediate impact on a person, such as voting allows that person to make a decision which benefits him by adhering to his own rational adherence to personal belief without regard to the irrationality of the decisions cost-benefit analysis in the big picture."

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    I blame the voting system more than anything else. FPTP systems produce 2 party systems.
    In previous times, when 3rd parties were allowed to voice their opinions more on the national stage, through presidential debates.
    Other parties had to co opt some of the beliefs in order to win.

    That has largely been eliminated.
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    Re: Ron Paul for president

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    In a sense, yes you do. Do you believe that more people will take those drugs if they are legal?
    It's no matter of belief.

    We, the public, DID use cocaine a hell of a lot more when it was legal. Hell cocaine gave birth to soda. Cocaine in CocaCola, and Pepsin in Pepsi, also.

    Regular recreational use of cocaine messed us up bad, we revolted against the product, and then made cocaine illegal. Now Loosertarians want to pretend non of that happened and repeat that mistake. No thank you.

    The choice not to be addicted to a drug is not the choice to be dependent on the state.
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