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Thread: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

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    Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Mitt Romney, when he was governor of Maryland, instituted a state health care plan, based around health insurance required by the state government. His plan was a basis for the federal government health care overhaul pushed through Congress by Nancy Pelosi and signed into law by President Obama. This plan passed by the Democratic Congress was criticized by Romney despite the similarities to the plan he passed for Maryland.

    Now Romney has come under fire from some conservatives and liberals for his plan. His liberal critics are calling him a hypocrite for criticizing the Democratic health care plan. His conservative critics are calling him a RINO for trying to use government mandate to require everybody within the state to purchase private health insurance.

    However, Romney and his supporters defend the Maryland health care plan as a form of federalism. They say that while the federal government does not have the authority to require people to purchase private health insurance, state governments do under the 10th Amendment. So Romney acted in good faith as a conservative while governor and would act in good faith as a President because he would not use the federal government to mandate the purchase of health insurance.

    So do you agree with Romney's justification for the Maryland health care plan? Why? Why not?
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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    FYI Mitt Romney was governor of Mass, not Maryland.

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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    FYI Mitt Romney was governor of Mass, not Maryland.
    Yeah, I knew it was one of those that started with an "M".
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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yeah, I knew it was one of those that started with an "M".
    As a citizen of the great state of Mass, I am insulted you that you confuse us with those fools from Maryland. I shall declare war on you!

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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Absolutely.

    The states are supposed to control and regulate the insurance business that takes place within their borders. I may not agree with the plan (especially on the federal level), but he was justified in signing that plan into law. That's what states are supposed to do. Make insurance mandates and regulations that make sense for their population. One of my biggest beefs with the federally passed bill, is just that. It's federal, when states don't need the feds to regulate healthcare for them. They already posses that power, and essentially they are giving it up.
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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    As a citizen of the great state of Mass, I am insulted you that you confuse us with those fools from Maryland. I shall declare war on you!
    As a citizen of the great state of Maryland, I don't recall a time when Mitt Romney was ever our governor. And I don't appreciate you callin us fools, fool!
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    As a citizen of the great state of Maryland, I don't recall a time when Mitt Romney was ever our governor. And I don't appreciate you callin us fools, fool!
    Having lived in D.C. for a summer and going up to Baltimore every weekend I feel I can call you fools. Also, grew up being a Duke fan. /Hate.


    To answer the question, I think it is. I also think that part of the debate on healthcare is on if the federal government has the authority to make sure the citizens have health care. For get what is in the bill, or who signed what. I think that is part of the debate that people have forgotten.

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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Having lived in D.C. for a summer and going up to Baltimore every weekend I feel I can call you fools. Also, grew up being a Duke fan. /Hate.


    To answer the question, I think it is. I also think that part of the debate on healthcare is on if the federal government has the authority to make sure the citizens have health care. For get what is in the bill, or who signed what. I think that is part of the debate that people have forgotten.
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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Absolutely.

    The states are supposed to control and regulate the insurance business that takes place within their borders. I may not agree with the plan (especially on the federal level), but he was justified in signing that plan into law. That's what states are supposed to do. Make insurance mandates and regulations that make sense for their population. One of my biggest beefs with the federally passed bill, is just that. It's federal, when states don't need the feds to regulate healthcare for them. They already posses that power, and essentially they are giving it up.
    true-if welfare/income redistribution was left to the states things would be much better. because it is much easier for us citizens to move from state to state than internationally, any state that had an overly generous welfare program would quickly fill up with sucklers of the public teat. That in turn would cause taxes to rise on productive citizens who would then move to more taxpayer friendly states. the generous handout states would have to correct their ways or go bankrupt

    that is why the left is so adamant about federal welfare-it prevents us net taxpayers from easily avoiding parasitic government by merely crossing state lines. It is also why our national debt is astronomical



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    Re: Do believe that Romney's Maryland health care plan is an example of federalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    As a citizen of the great state of Mass, I am insulted you that you confuse us with those fools from Maryland. I shall declare war on you!
    At least I didn't confuse the state with Missouri.
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